here's currently in the security agency holding a number of senior positions in the department of justice including the national security division and the federal bureau of investigation. mr. olsen appeared as a witness before this committee previously and briefed members and staff over the last several years. i'd like to welcome him back to this committee. i'd like to begin today by discussing the current terrorist threat and the role of what we call nctc, which mr. olsen will be leading if confirmed. the nctc is the central agency within the united states government dealing with the identification, prevention, disprescription, and -- disruption, and analysis of terrorist threats. it's very important. while it's best known for analyzing terrorism-related intelligence, it also plays an important role in conducting strategic planning for counterterrorism actions across our government. the thrks ctc grew significantly in size, capability, and maturity under michael leiter. its successes and those of the broader counterterrorism community include numerous plots that were tabaretted here at -

if i may say, i do believe that given my role at the department of justice, and my role now, that i haveh an understanding, actually a deep understanding of the rules that apply to protect civil liberties and privacy of u.s. persons but i also i think have a very strong view and a record of finding the appropriate ways to overcome legal, sometimes perceived legal as well as a policy barriers to sharing information. i don't believe that there is a strong basis for, as a policy matter, not allowing information to be shared when that information is necessary to protect the mega-people and if i am honored to be confirmed it will absolutely be my commitment to find a way to overcome expressed concerns about sharing information when that information is necessary to subport and ctc's mission and that is to prevent another terrorist attack. so certainly you have my commitment to look very heart of that question. >> as you and i discussed in my office the critical role that nctc plays is for the most part centered around information sharing, and it is a requirement that u.s. director of nctc shar

we met in april 2009 in his office and i was part of a team from the department of justice and the white house that went to brief congressman wolf on not just the guantanamo taskforce but all three of the task forces that were set up under the three executive orders issued by president obama in january of 2009. this is the early stage of the review process. we had just begun efforts to review the set of detainees and it was made clear to congressman wolf during that briefing that the ground rule would be that we could discuss the process that we are undertaking to conduct that reach you but we were not authorized to discuss any particular decision or specific detainee's. we did in fact lee of the process for him and i understand now he has expressed concern he wasn't given full information about the actual decision making process with the group of detainee's known as chinese uighurs at guantanamo. i did not discuss, not because i was not authorized or make a unilateral decision the department of justice officials what the status was of the decision making process. i certainly as i said t

legitimate lawsuits to go forward and this is in each case because the obama administration department of justice has opposed these inquiries and their justification is always national security so that is in effect and of all the cables to a lot of the almost against the edges with the legislation here but in a way does that give you hope for some sort of optimism because if this has been brought to light then perhaps could it not influence of all it was future wave the u.s. involvement in the likes of iraq and afghanistan. well of course bringing all of this to light is extremely important because after all these occupations only continue based on people feeling that they're legitimate i think they're profoundly immoral lemon just and everything we learned i mean this is quite an incredible case to former u.s. veterans who were in afghanistan working for i'm sorry in iraq working for an iraqi company that had a massive contract with the united states department of justice defense in fact started to become informers for the united states department of justice the f.b.i. and what they found to be

department of justice. >> the good officers definitely know who the bad officers are. everybody knows who the bad officers are. >> reporter: cbs news has learned that portland is just one of 20 police departments nationwide that the justice department has investigated for civil rights violations in the last year. more than any time in history. among the allegations-- in newark, a rape. in seattle, the fatal shooting of a homeless man. in new orleans, another deadly shooting. >> what we have is a number of departments where's the officers are not given the tools that they need to succeed, meaning that they don't have the training. they don't have the supervision. they're not held accountable. >> reporter: portland's current political leader, mayor sam adams, told us he welcomed the federal investigation, call the chasse case awful and tragic. he says the city has added new training for officers. in a statement, portland's police association said: still, in the last 20 months, there have been two more controversial police shootings, both fatal. leaving this still-grieving

this is one of the problems with the justice department. re not really very accountable to the public concerns of what they looked into and what they do not. they have discretion yes -- into whether they pursue cases or not. it is frustrating that there has not been more evidence of the investigations or more explanations from the justice department about which big financial players they are pursuing, and which they are not pursuing from the financial crisis. so, we may not. they closed the s&p investigation. i'll be keeping my years out for it. they might not make an announcement. host: and other tweet -- guest: there are a lot of investors that have so much money to invest, and only a few staffers. they do rely, to a certain degree, on ratings. that is why it had a aaa rating and it was a mortgage security, investors bought it without doing much due diligence. you could argue that this is wrong. people need to do their homework. for that to happen, you need to have a lot of ways these financial institutions work change, and that a lot of s

accept and expend in the amount of $205,000 to create some of infrastructure development in the it fold at the community justice center. department of public health was successful in applying a solicitation to the federal government to create a program on site at the community justice center. as a result of that application, we were invited to apply for a supplemental on one of money to use for development at the community justice center. these funds will greatly enhance our ability to develop and create and install a wide network connectivity in the facility, as well as workstation connectivity, as well as assist us in accessing data with our criminal justice partners. if you have any questions, i am here to answer any that you may have. supervisor mirkarimi: thank you. it said that years two and three are also part of the program. does the funding extend into those two years as well? >> because this is mostly infrastructure creation, the bulk of the expenses will be expense of all over the first fiscal year. and we have an additional amount with regards to maintenance, $47,000 in year two, $48,000 in year three. this is just a

my question is today are you here under the direction of the fbi, the cia, the department of justice or the department of homeland security? >> thank you. the answer is i am not. >> you have the authority by those organizations to submit any of the comments are back up anything of what you have said from the fbi, the cia, the department justice or the department of homeland security? >> no man. >> jeeves left, you talked about the recruitment of the somali american immigrants. are there other young people that have been recruited by al-shabaab and al qaeda to your knowledge? >> that's probably a question better served for federal authorities. i can tell you from the open source information i know of just one individual who is not of the somalia dissent. >> other than the somalia dissent of that has been recruited? >> yes. >> okay. >> and mr. joscelyn, you talked about in your house was introduced for you that you are a terrorist expert and that you have been following this since 2006. and in the comments he said in the very beginning mostly muslims. would you also agree that are there

how much of it goes to the fbi, a department of justice, secret service, common security? this is part of the overall picture, but not the whole picture. guest: we alluded to the white house's cybersecurity proposal. we are over the debt crisis. in speaking with people on capitol hill i've heard a lot of fears from aids that have been working on this issue that things have stalled. can you give us an update? guest: we believe we are going to start seeing some movement on this when congress comes back. this has been a big issue. we recognize there are a lot of pieces we need to put in place on this. legislation is only one of them. while this has been up there since we submitted a proposal, that does not mean we stopped all work waiting for congress to do something. we continue to make efforts, but we think when congress will come back there will be extra focus on it. and we will see a continued movement forward on a bipartisan basis, recognizing that are pieces of cybersecurity the legislative body to help us with. host: you talked about pieces of legislation. would you pre

an interesting report coming in from one of our producers who is at the department of justice -- who is at the pentagon saying that a d.c. police officer is warning folks -- the department of justice do not go back into the d.o.j. and warning folks not to go into the subway because they are concerned about aftershocks. trying to get information on whether that is the case in new york city which is a major means travel, the underground subway system. the concern of aftershocks. we have not felt any. that doesn't mean they haven't happened or will not happen. no first-handle accounts of that. one extraordinary comment from this d.c. police officer to our producer, this is just a one-liner. but he told our producer they are concerned that the washington monument may be tilting. they are concerned that the monument may be tilting. that's all i have. a one-line event. now i'm getting word from mike tobin that we are now having evacuations as far north as canada just across the border from detroit. that city hall was evacuated due to this quake. so this is a widespread event in terms of whe

and that's been something that mueller and the bureau and eric holder and the department of justice have been working on over the last couple of years. there has been this repriorityization has been, i think by most accounts, pretty devastating to the bureau in terms of white collar fraud, in terms of kidnapping, in the terms of what they call the drug enterprise cases, the bigger drug cases they work. one of the clearest causes of the fbi's repriorityization has come along the southern border where mueller pulled 2,000 agents away from the crisis along the border. and if you look at that over the last decade, the rise in violence in mexico among the drug cartels matches pretty closely the disappearance of those 2,000 agents. >> host: what has congress' reaction been to that? >> guest: well, in many ways as much as the fbi has grown in terms of national security, that has mostly been at the expense of pulling agents out of the criminal division. and many of those agents have not been in government terms back filled. the fbi has not been hiring new agents at the pace that it's been redepl

drawing on the other resources, drawing within the department of defense, department of energy, the department of justice and fbi, so it's a supportive role, but somebody has to lead this. as a consequence, they continue to build their capabilities as we develop the national cyber response plan. we look at things such as cyber storm which is some of the exercises. that better gives them a window into some of the things they have to modify and change to do this. so i have confidence in the leadership, i have confidence in the mission they've got, but we continue to build the capabilities with smart people and good, good laws put in place to help support them. >> host: can the government, can the department respond quickly? >> guest: i think they can, and it's the type of thing where it's more than their responsibility. private sector is a big, big part of this. private sector's been dealing with it for a long time. so as a consequence the ability to ramp up what we're dealing with today is ongoing work, but more importantly it's building for the future because part of their role in not only dealing with t

managers overruled them the department of justice in america alleges that they began the probe of s. and p. before the downgrade of u.s. debt they're going to rewrite that story of the boy who pointed out that the king abdullah clothes in this version the king investigates the boy for having faulty eyesight well so i mean yes s. and p. did faulty grade these things but are fit to know more i don't know my vote no no they didn't falsely grade these things that two trillion dollar error supposedly according to our body peter schiff this was an assumption that certain growth parameters would be met that there's no way in heck any of that growth parameters will be met this is a straight up and straight down. forward honest to goodness report there is no true trillion dollar error made the right call the fact that they're now being vilified by the people that they made the call against doesn't invalidate the call well i'm talking about the mortgage securities when they raided the mortgage securities that have exploded and across the entire global economy the s. and p. raided all of those

you gets involved i hope the department of justice investigates it at this point the department of justice has not released a comment on this situation but i think that it is their responsibility to investigate this and make sure that civil rights are not being violated now you mentioned right wing extremism but you know how exactly would you like to see that happen do you think of the operation be focusing on right wing extremism rather than extremism within the muslim community you know i mean is it ok i feel like i sometimes hear a little bit of a double standard because we often hear the left obviously upset about stories like this where we find out that there's racial profiling going on or religious profiling and that there are surveillance of muslim communities but then when it comes to surveillance on perhaps you know right wing extremist militia members whatever you want to call them i feel like those voices kind of die down depending on what the cause is. we should do investigations on anyone regardless of their ethnicity regardless of their religion regardless of their nationalit

ramifications of this, but the federal communications commission has never gone against the department of justicef the department of justice pursues this and says we're not going to let this deal go through, i don't think it can happen, because the fcc will not go against the doj. it sounds very complicated, but basically those two government entities are not going to fight with each other over that. >> wow. sue herera with this big development. thank you. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> a huge fight breaks out at an amusement park as scarves are banned from certain rides. more details on what happened here. >>> plus, rick perry leads the pack of republican presidential candidates and yet another poll surging again ahead of mitt romney. we'll tell you how he stacks up against president obama in this latest poll that's out. [ male announcer ] this is the network. a network of possibilities. excuse me? my grandfather was born in this village. [ automated voice speaks foreign language ] [ male announcer ] in here, everyone speaks the same language. ♪ in here, forklifts drive themselves. no,

about just over an hour where the city officials and police will be joined by the feds by department of justice officials. experts on how to attack gang problems here in the city of san jose. this partnership comes just two days after police actually cut ties to immigration -- federal immigration agents or ice agents. on wednesday police chief chris moore said it was a successful two-month crackdown on gang violence with the arrest of 215 gang members but community leaders were worried that i.c.e. agents would be targeting illegal immigrants here to deport. >> to action knowledge and thank the chief of police for listening to the community's concern about i.c.e. and terminating the contract that he had with i.c.e. in san jose. >> reporter: san jose police say they are not caving in to community pressure that they got. they say that the last gang- related homicide was back in june on june 14 which is why they ended the ties with the federal immigration agents. they are now getting help from the department of justice, two officials -- several official actually coming here this morning to meet wit

justice department isn't doing a criminal investigation. i didn't know if there is a crime or not. why isn't the justice department going soft? >> very few people have had criminal cases coming out of crisis. there's only been three. most have been civil. there haven't been many cases at all. the justice department has already closed the investigation involving washington mutual the giant bank in seattle and countrywide. i said what does the department tell you about this case might it be criminal? they were told it would be civil. one person put in an interesting way. he said, at the beginning of his interview with the doj they told him, they wanted to reassure him, don't worry it is a civil matter. that struck me as interesting that they knew that upfront and that's the they were going and telling these people this. >> greta: it is so outrageous. if i stole a ham from the safeway or started ripping off fox news, there would be a criminal investigation. why s&p agreeing this pass. i read your article i know at one point a u.s. attorney said on a civil investigation every lie is not a crime. whatever. i'm curious, going back to these 2007 credit swaps that s&p rated as aaa. who pai

we have been very fortunate at the department of justice and in law enforcement across the country toho values partnership and to understands the importance of science and technology to public safety. i think it is fair to say we have never had an attorney general so committed to science. in fact, i think this will be one of eric holder's strong as legacies -- his commitment to science. he recognizes technology plays a vital role in our response to critical incidents. i know i speak for john and his staff when i say we have nothing but the strongest support from the attorney general and our work to repair and improve the nation's response systems. the attorney general knows from his experience as a local prosecutor that our state and local law enforcement professionals are the ones to bear the burden of protecting the american citizens. i can tell you he works hard every day to make sure the department of justice is doing all it can to help you do your jobs. from the beginning, this attorney general and this administration have been committing -- have been committed to listening to an

of whether something is correct. when i worked at the u.s. justice department under attorney general ashcroft we would never have dreamed of suing a a state in trying to assist the government in pursuing illegal immigration. things have changed at the obama justice department and they've brought these suits which are unprecedented and unnecessary. groups like the a.c.l.u. already launched the lawsuit so it wasn't necessary for the justice department to spend our taxpayer dollars suing alabama. the notion this was about whether the justice department would sue is incorrect. the question is does a state have the authority and under the precedence of the united states, they do. my colleague opposite has made the claim that these are radical measures. hardly, in fact, every one of the 50 states police officers exercise this authority all the time. they pull someone over for speeding, the federal government has a 24/7 hotline and if the police officer says, you know, this doesn't look look right, there's ten people crammed into a six-person car, they're acting evasi

i talked to a number of former employees from s&p who have been interviewed by the department of justice, and they told me the kind of questions investigators are asking. in particular, they seem to be interested in whether s&p was raiding mortgage bonds, all of those bundles of mortgage loans before the financial crisis, is the analysts their new they were poor quality and wanted -- is the analysts knew they were poor quality, and wanted to downgrade them, but if they were over- ruled? those are the kind of questions they are asking host: was this done before or after the story most people remember about s&p one comes to the country's bond rating? guest: that is of great interest because a lot of lawmakers were furious s&p downgraded the united states' rating for the first time in history, but the people i spoke with were interviewed months before that happened. at the very least, it has been going on for a long time. it is hard to know whether the downgrade of the united states will speed up the investigation. host: for the people you talked about, can you tell us the questions they we

and the timing of the merger just a few months after it was announced, the merger was announced for the justice departmentreally kind of quickly come up with a lawsuit to block the deal really signaled to antitrust experts who are following this merger that the justice department does not want to find some sort of middle ground. that they really are serious about trying to block this deal. >> suarez: is there a lot at stake here for at&t beyond simply not acquiring t-mobile? this if this deal were not to go through? >> there certainly is. there is cash and assets at stake. if at&t does not close this deal by september, 2012, it will have to pay in cash $3 billion to deutsche telecom, that's the parent company of t-mobile and also hand other about $3 billion in assets that includes wireless spectrum radio airwaves and other assets. so there's a lot of money at stake here. there's real obligations. there are things on the table. that said, this is a company that makes about $30 billion every quarter, so $6 billion is a significant amount of money and a significant amount that it would lose but one theory is

association is under a completely separate organization as a result of an agreement we have with the department of justice and department of education, so that we don't have any antitrust issues. that is an independent group. we at the american bar association are asking law schools to prepare for -- prepare 10 simple questions about what it costs to go to law school, how many of their students are employed upon graduation in real jobs, not artificial jobs, and we think it is going to be helpful. we also have a website that has a lot of information for anyone considering to go to law school, but probably the most important statistic that these potential students don't know is that the median income of lawyers in the united states is $62,000. they need to understand that before they incur $100,000 in debt. is there always room for another good lawyer? we need good lawyers. there always is. you have to ask yourself how much that you can afford -- how much debt you can afford. they have been watching too much "boston legal." you see $100,000 starting salaries. that may be for the top 10 students at the top 1