what office does he hold in the department of justice? >> he is the assistant attorney general of -- >> knowing him as he did back in july 2010, allowed a letter that went out on part -- on department stationery -- why would he let a letter that was false represent the position of the department of justice. >> first of all, the briefing, that was about wide receiver, not fast and furious. >> by the way, do you know the difference between wide receiver and fast and furious? >> their different operations. >> do you know the differences? the factual differences between wide receiver and fast and furious? >> there were a number of differences both in terms of scope, a time. the bush administration is the one who started wide receiver. the obama administration is where wide receiver -- is where fast and furious began. >> are you winning this, or do you know? >> i know. >> neither was there the intention to follow the weapons on fast and furious, nor did mexico know that the united states government was allowing guns to go in the hands of the ca

>> well, there are 115,000 employees in the united states department of justice. there are -- >> and it stops with you. >> i have ultimate responsibility for that which happens in the department, but i cannot be expected to know the details of every operation that is ongoing in the justice department on a day-to-day basis. i did not know about fast and furious as indicated in the charts that you now have up there until, i guess -- well, until it became public. >> you cannot be -- you didn't know despite the fact that we know you received an ndic memo on july 5, 2010, another memo on fast and furious, november 1, 2010, you say you can't be expected to have known about it because of the size of the agency? >> there's problems with the chart, colorful though it is, they received the memo is up correct, they receive significant recent events memo is incorrect. >> they had your name on it addressed to you referring to the fast and furious operation, or are you just saying you didn't read them. >> i didn't receive them. >> you didn't rave them? >> the weekly reports are

>> there are 115,000 employees in the department of justice. >> it stops with you. >> hi have ultimate responsibility for that which happens in the department but i cannot be expected to know the details of every operation that is ongoing in the justice department on a day to day basis. i did not know about fast and furious as indicated in the charts you have up there until it became public. >> you cannot be expected to have known about fast and furious despite the fact that we know you received a memo on july 5th, 2010, and another memo on fast and furious november 1st, 2010, and you say you cannot be expected to have known about it because of the size of your agency? >> there are couple problems with that chart, colorful though it is. the a.d. holder received a memo. incorrect. ac holder received recent events memo. that is incorrect. >> memos with your name on it addressed to you referring to the fast and furious operation. are you saying you didn't read them? >> i didn't receive them. what happened is these reports are prepared, weekly reports are prepared with my name on them and

>> there are 115,000 employees in the department of justice. i have ultimate responsibility for that what happens in the department. but i cannot be expected to know the details of every operation that is ongoing in the justice department on a day-to- day basis. i did not know about fast and furious, as indicated in the chart you have up there, until i guess -- well, until it became public. >> you cannot be expected to have known about the operation fast and furious, despite the fact that we know you received a ndic memo on july 5, 2010. you received another memo on fast and furious november 1, 2010. and you say it cannot be expected to have known about that? >> because of the size of your agency? >> a couple of problems with that chart, colorful as it is. ag holder received a memo -- incorrect. received recent events memo -- that is incorrect. >> those are memos with your name on it addressed to you referring to the fast and furious -- fast and furious operation? >> are you saying you did not read them quality and -- read them? >> then i did no

pressure on as the investigation we are told is slowing down as congressional sources say the department of justices stalling and starving investigators on document and interviews they need to answer who in washington knew what and when. >> the purpose of today's event is to demand that the department of justice and the attorney general holder do the following. first, stop politicizing this operation. the victims of this firearms knows this is not a have you can or democratic problem. this is a problem the nation is fighting. >> when you have the privilege of leading the department of justice there is no excuse for not knowing what is going on, especially when it relates to something as controversial and dangerous as "operation fast & furious." but ultimately the buck stops with the president of the united states. i think it's time for the president to ask mr. holder to resign. >> reporter: 39 lawmakers have called on holder to resign as has the national rifle association. but many believe the strategy is to drag this out until march. over the last 10 months i have spoke on a lot of atf agents, cur

in the department of justice? >> we have made a number of changes with regard to the personnel both in the phoenix office as well as the atf headquarters and i will certainly await the report that comes out of the inspector general and i will assure you and the american people people will be held accountable for the mistakes made in connection with fast and furious. >> thank you. thank you for coming back. senator franken, do you have any questions? >> i'm sorry that i haven't been here. we had a committee meeting, so i missed the last two and a half hours. before i begin i want to align myself with the comments on the at&t and t-mobile merger, the antitrust division's have largely dormant under the previous set ministration and i am very pleased under your leadership the department is willing to send a message that antitrust law is still relevant and should be applied to the competitive merger. thank you. i know that you have had a long day so i just have one question. as you know there is an epidemic of bullying

not the department of justice. we need to provide men and women fighting this battle the tools they need. senator coons. >> i think attorney-general holder for being here in the oversight function of this committee, one of the most important roles we have. thank you for your service and your detailed testimony today. i am keenly concerned about the very real and the emerging threat of cybercriminals and to meet this threat we need to use all of our resources at our disposal. my home state of delaware has a promising national guard unit in network warfare squadron and last friday we sent you a letter asking for your position on whether the national guard might provide a pathway for the doj to make some use of their sophisticated cyberdefense resources. as they expand law enforcement resources. i want to thank you for your consideration of that and look forward to the department's responds. .. >> and to promote our nation security for our ip infrastructure? >> i think the issue that you've highlighted is one that aga

they are afraid because you have a federal and state grand jury, department of justice and u.s. rtment of education. >> do you think they are afraid or not the right timing. wait until the football season is over. if it's about protecting the football program that, too, seems to be weighing heavily. >> fred, it's all about protecting the football program, the image and money being generated by this football program from federal sources forecasts alumni. this football program supports the university. please, the profit this generates is off the charts. >> i know we have other cases, i do want to ask you too, avery, we talk about doj, department of justice and department of education investigation, how are they different? >> department of education sex abuse, department of justice criminal. two different issues. ultimately they join together. separate responsibilities, look for both of them. >> let's move on to conrad murray. we know he was convicted of involuntary manslaughter. right around the corner he's going to be sentenced. right on the eve of his sentencing, this "today" sho

hearing that he misstated the facts about federal gun running sting operations or at least the department of justicefebruary the justice department told congress that the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms, or atf does not let guns walk into mexico, period, it doesn't happen. now assistant attorney general lani brewer admitting to the u.s. senate that he knew that was not true, and he knew it nearly a year before that representation was made to congress when he learned about a gun-walking program, not fast and furious, but a different one called operation wide receiver. watch this. >> on february the 4th 2011 the department sent me a letter also assuring me that allegations of gun walking were untrue. it reads, quote, atf makes every effort to interdict weapons that have been purchased illegally and prevent their transportation to mexico, end of quote. that statement is absolutely false, and you admitted as much last night that you knew by april 2010 that the atf walked guns in operation wide receiver. that's correct, yes? >> yes, senator, what i -- >> that's all i need to know. is that's corre

they have to be pursued in conjunction with the department of justice and the department of justice has been noticeably absent on this beat. >> suarez: mark, have people who committed crimes actually been in some jeopardy after the fact? >> not that we can tell for those who have committed crimes. i don't think it's an either/or. i think there's a very high level to prove intent in criminal cases and as somebody who cares about the rights of the accused i think there should be a high level. i agree there is a difference in will and many of the firms are still getting tremendous taxpayer assistance. you have the conflict of interest essentially from the bank regulators saying i don't want this institution to fail on my watch, so, of course, i don't want the s.e.c. to go after it. if you look for instance at the taxpayer, for instance, has paid the defense fees for former executives of fannie mae and freddie mac. of course, if the s.e.c. is going to look at this and say i might get a judgment. but if the taxpayer is going to pay twhere is the justice in that? there's a revolving door issu

i hope you will stand up to the department of justice. i think it is another tired attack on san francisco values. thank you. [applause] supervisor avalos: thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> hello. i am a patient advocate. i would like to say thank you for your time, first of all. second, i would like to say that safe access is no access if you cannot properly medicaid without the federal peppermint cracking down on the dispensaries, collectives, and co-ops, and people with low incomes and disability. please, doj, stand down. i urge you. people in high places, please protect medical cannabis. thank you very much. [applause] supervisor avalos: thank you. if there are no other members of the public who would like to comment -- anyone else, please come forward. >> how low. i just wanted to quickly say that i mirror the sentiment of my colleagues. thank you. supervisor avalos: ok. seen no other member of the public who would like to comment on item number one, we will close public comment. supervisor campos, any other comments? ok.

i hope you will stand up to the department of justice.hink it is another tired attack on san francisco values. thank you. [applause]

the alabama schools says we are not giving the department of justice any of thatnformation until this matter is settled between the department of justice and the attorney general. stalemate. very big time in alabama right now. megyn: and the one side is looking to convert it into check mate. >> reporter: exactly. megyn: thanks for foray piecinfor appeasing. that is on the docket next hour, does the alabama school system have the right to bypass the attorney general. new questions involving the sexual harassment allegations facing presidential candidate herman cain. mr. cain shooting down every claim during a news conference yesterday saying it's just not true. new information is coming to light raising questions about the credibility of a couple of his accusers, the ones whose identities have been revealed. karen kraushaar and sharon bialek. monica crowley is a fox news contributor. any time you come out you're going to have your record croute niced. now we know who she is and people are looking at her credibility. let's start with karen kraushaar, because this is

what is the scope of the problem that the justice department was acting on? >> the scope of the problem is unbelieveably huge. rogue websites, those dedicated to the theft of american intellectual property, our creative and innovative products, get over 53 billion visits every year. that's nine visits for every human being on the face of the earth. they've been estimated to do at least $135 billion in harm to legitimate businesses. the products they sell are made in completely unregulated facilities and can often be not only shoddy but harmful to consumers' health. >> ifill: is it a problem that's growing or something which... or is technology allowing it to feed on itself? >> it's a massive problem that's growing every day. because many of these sites are located outside the united states where there is no remedy. for the sites located in the u.s. or at least where their domain name is registered in the u.s., dot-com, dot-net, then our enforcement agencies like immigration and customs enforcement and the department of justice who are both doing fantastic work

and with the department of justice. >> bill: we're filing two, one with homeland security and one with the department of justice. >> it doesn't even have to be two. it could be one. >> bill: the federal government is covering something up. they tonight want the folks to know what agency let this guy out. >> because it's their responsibility and this occurred while he was supposed to be under their supervision and their watch. potentially he was going to be crucial or testifying or involved in a case -- >> bill: he was involved in some kind of case, we understand. >> then you're supposed to, if you have that person and you're asked -- >> bill: you got to monitor him. >> look what he did under their watch. that's why this is a problem. u.s. attorney's office, u.s. marshal and the atf, just the northern district of text for the u.s. attorney's office -- >> in a case like this, they would have to not sign off on -- >> bill: they have to know about it. the u.s. attorney doesn't want to tell us. we have to go through all the paperwork and compel them to tell us. what we think happened here a

and last week, lo and behold, the department of justice, the department of justice, those government guys, they released this following statement. "after further review, we determined that our initial conclusions concerning the itemized costs of refreshments at the eoir conference were incorrect and that the department did not pay $16 per muffin." don't say anything wrong across the street. the day the doj statement was released was the day o'reilly said this. >> i want to remind you not to make statements you can't back up on this network. we don't do that on this network. other networks do. we don't. >> hey, leslie, he's looking out for you. certainly not looking out for the hotel. i'll keep my eye out for a correction, muffin-gate bill. for you to say fox news does not make statements that can't back up, well, that's unbalanced "psycho talk." >>> i went to newton, iowa, this weekend. as i said i would. and i talked to the people there. what happened to newton, iowa? what did you go through when whirlpool came in and bought maytag then all of a sudden the jobs were gone? two of tho

drug busts but don't give us information when they are doing it, the narcotics along with the department of justice. >> they document of the ten meth homes, according to a state database, there were 30 homes busted for meth during that same time period. >> many times, it's not communicated. >> bureau of narcotics special agent was at the drug bust as the house. >> he says there was no requirement to do so in 2006 when the lab was busted but a recent law has closed that am hol. >> this there is a providing is that mandates of notification by the department of justice or local agencies. >> but even with the new law, sawyer doesn't think his county knows about every meth bust. >> i'm not sure exactly. where we've been in past, we've sent out letters when there a drug lab. >> that adds even more frustration for her. she doesn't have the money to move. she is worried about the possible effects of meth residue. >> my house is contaminated now. everything i worked for. my kids' home. >> one bright spotted is that her landlord will do what is necessary to clean up the home. there is no telling how many hom

reports that the head of the department of justice's criminal division knew that the division of alcoholtobacco and firearms allowed suspects to traffic guns across the border. wide receiver is similar to the fast and furious program where the feds deliberately funneled guns to mexican drug cartels. but this department head says he regrets now that he never informed his boss, attorney general eric holder. republican senator chuck grassley is the ranking member of the senate judiciary committee. he's been investigating this sandal and joins us now -- scandal and joins us now. so there was an operation before fast and furious that, in many respects, was very similar and should have been a heads up, as i understand it, to the folks at the department of justice. >> yeah. wide receiver was very much a very smaller program, and there tended to be more tracking of the weapons ask coordination with people across the border in mexico. maybe 300 weapons as an example. but in fast and furious there's about 2,000 weapons, and there wasn't any effort to track them across the border. so the question t

. >> did you speak to the department of justice or other investigators? > i spoke with indigent on the scene of jonestown after the massacre he was a lead photographer who was down there. as far as the department of justice, i mean most of their documentation including all of their internal investigation was released in these files and that is what i work off. [inaudible] [applause] >> this event was hosted by the jimmycarterlibrary.org museum. to find out more about the events, visit jimmycarterlibrary.org. >>> coming of next booktv presents afterwards like an hour-long program we invite guest hosts to interview authors to read this week pat buchanan and his latest book suicide of a superpower. the former nixon adviser argues america is suffering from a moral and social collapse that may be permanent. he discusses claims with ralph nader consumer advocate and presidential candidate.