this one involving the department of justice. a key focus of our hearing today will be a draft letter that are witnesses here today refused to sign. this letter was written by mr. jeff clark with another department of justice department lawyer, ken kasky. and the letter was to be sent to the leadership of the georgia state legislature. other portions of the legislature that were intended for other states. neither mr. drug nor mr. klulowski had any evidence of widespread electorate and flawed, but they were quite aware of what mr. trump wanted the department to do. jeff clarke met privately with president trump and others in the white house and agreed to assist the president without telling the senior leadership of the department who oversaw him. as you will see, this letter claims that the u.s. department of investigations have, quote, intended fight significant concerns that may have impacted the outcome of the election in multiple states, including the state of georgia. in fact, donald trump knew this was a lie there. department

this one involving the department of justice. a key focus of our hearing today will be a draft letter that our witnesses here today refused to sign. this letter was written by mr. jeff clark, with another department of justice lawyer ken kukows ask i and another letter was to to be sent to the georga state legislature. other letters were intended for other states. neither mr. clark more kenkowski had evidence of election fraud. jeff clark met privately with president trump and others in the white house and agreed to assist the president without telling the senior leadership of the department who oversaw him. as you will see, this letter claims that the u.s. can't of justice's -- the u.s. department of justice's investigation, quote, identified significant concerns that may have impacted the outcome of the election in multiple states, including the state of georgia. in fact, donald trump knew this was a lie. the department of justice had already informed the president of the united states repeatedly that its investigations had foun

this one involving the department of justice. a key focus of our hearing today will be a draft letter that are witnesses here today refused to sign. this letter was written by mr. jeff clark with another department of justice department lawyer, ken kasky. and the letter was to be sent to the leadership of the georgia state legislature. other portions of the legislature that were intended for other states. neither mr. drug nor mr. klulowski had any evidence of widespread electorate and flawed, but they were quite aware of what mr. trump wanted the department to do. jeff clarke met privately with president trump and others in the white house and agreed to assist the president without telling the senior leadership of the department who oversaw him. as you will see, this letter claims that the u.s. department of investigations have, quote, intended fight significant concerns that may have impacted the outcome of the election in multiple states, including the state of georgia. in fact, donald trump knew this was a lie there. department

this one involving the department of justice. a key focus of our hearing today will be a draft letter that our witnesses here today refused to sign. this letter was written by mr. jeff clark with another department of justice lawyer. the letter was to be sent to the leadership of the georgia state legislature. other versions of the letter were intended for other states. neither mr. clark, nor mr. klukowski had any widespread evidence of election frayed. they were aware of what mr. trump wanted the department to do. jeff clark met privately with president trump and others in the white house and agreed to assist the president without telling the senior leadership of the department that oversaw him. as you'll see, this letter claims that the u.s. department of justices investigations have identified significant concerns that may have impacted the outcome of the election in multiple states including state of georgia. in fact, donald trump knew this was a lie. the department of justice had already informed the president of the united s

i'm proud of the department of justice they help lead. ay sound corny to some of your viewers. but that's what you are supposed to do. you are supposed to do the right thing, even when it is hard. they did that, good for them. but that is the job. but had they not intervened, had there been weaker people, had there been spineless people in their seats rather than them, chaos, stephanie. because it would have given the imprimatur of the department of justice to anybody in georgia who wanted to submit a false slate of electors or who wanted to claim that even the justice department believed that the election in georgia and elsewhere was fraudulent. so, a very important moment, when that we should not overlook. and i'm very glad that smart people -- courageous people -- did the right thing. again, that's the job. that is what you were supposed to do, even when it is hard. >> where they able to do the right thing, luke, by appealing to trump's narcissism? they stopped him, not because they convinced him that the letter was a bad idea or that c

but there is also a criminal investigation unfolding in the department of justice and may or may not have trump as one of their targets. all right, that's heidi joe castro live for us from capitol hill. still ahead on al jazeera communities come together in indian administered kashmir. as the regions largest river versus banks, and indigenous protesters in ecuador celebrate as they take over a cultural center, sealed off by the military. ah hello, the dangerous heat continues across southern parts of the u. s. last the clear sky still in place, but look a little further north. you see we have got some cloud around. we have got weather systems bringing some very active storms in across that northeast corner there in the process of clearing out of the way, breaking the heat somewhat 27 celsius there for new york. but you can see temperatures. what into the thirty's down towards that southeastern corner, up towards the central plays up towards an on place. we will see some wet weather wet weather there into central parts of canada as well. and that's going to shift its way, little furthe

this one involving the department of justice. day refuse to sign. this letter was written by mr. jeff clark, with another department of justice lawyer ken kuklowski. other versions of the letter were intended for other states. neither mr. clark, nor mr. kuklowski had any evidence of election fraud. but they were quite aware of what president trump wanted the department to do. jeff clark met with trump privately and with others in the white house and agreed to assist the president without telling the senior leadership of the department who oversaw him. as you will see, this letter claims that the u.s. department of justice's investigations have, quote, identified significant concerns that may have impacted the outcome of the election in multiple states. including the state of georgia. in fact, donald trump knew this was a lie. the department of justice had already informed the president of the united states repeatedly that its investigations had found no fraud sufficient to overturn the results of the 2020 election. the letter also

department in washington, and i said, mr. president, within 24, 48, 72 hours, you could have hundreds and hundreds of resignations of the leadership of your entire justice department because of your actions. what's that going to say about you? >> we should point out that stop, that was, that stop the president's efforts to subvert the department of justice, to, to get the department of justice to say that the election was corrupt. however, it didn't stop the president and his attempted coup three days later, january 6. the president was out there in front of that crowd, repeating all the same lies that all his members from the department of justice, except jeffrey clark, had told him were completely false. he was saying those things, the exact same lies, to that crowd, telling them to march on the capital. also today, the committee publicly stated the names of republican members of congress who actively sought pardons from the former president. we are going to get into that any moment. it is an extraordinary list. first want to discuss what we just heard. both former federal prosecutors also seen in. seen in political commentator alyssa fara, alyssa far

the issue was that the use of the justice department, and it is so important that the justice departmentadheres to the facts and the law. that's what it's there to do. that is what's our constitutional role was, and so if the justice department gets out of the role that it is supposed to play, that is really bad for our country, and i don't know a simpler way to say that, when you damage our fundamental institutions, it's not easy to repair them. i thought this was a really important issue to try and make sure that the justice department was able to stay on the right course. >> did you eventually tell the president that mass rags and nations wouldn't -- and what the consequences would be? >> this was in line with the president saying what do i have to lose? he said, suppose i do this, suppose i replace him, and replace him with him. what would you do? president, i would resign immediately, i'm not working for a minute with this guy. i just declared he was completely incompetent. the president immediately turned to mr. engel, and said steve, you wouldn't resign, would you? he said absolut

chris, obviously there was a lot of people investigating voter fraud. u.s. attorneys, justice departmentls, elections officials. that's not what jeffrey clark's being investigated for. >> no, of course not. we heard today in chapter and verse he's obviously being investigated because he was pushing this idea that the justice department should say that they had found evidence of fraud when they hadn't found evidence of fraud. i find the timing of this odd because on the one hand, you say to yourself, well, gosh, this has been going on for a year and a half. we've known about jeffrey clark's involvement for a long time. this was thoroughly investigated by the senate judiciary committee, so why did it take them so long to get -- you know, and was it that they decided to raid jeffrey clark's house because he was going to be the subject of this big investigation and hearing today? but having talked to some attorneys today, it takes a lot to be able to raid. you've got to have -- you've got to convince a magistrate that you need to go and raid the guy's house. you need to convince them that yo

jeff clark to take over the department of justice. welcome back to our primetime recap of today's january 6th hearings. as we've been discussing, today's hearing was all about trump's efforts to use the justice department to overthrow the u.s. government. and specifically, to elevate an obscure doj official named jeff clark, to take over the department, in order to enact this plan. the way it would work is that clark would have the justice department tell state governments that the justice department had discovered tons of election fraud in states that biden had won. and so republican-led legislatures in those states should probably just go ahead and replace the biden electors with trump electors on the advice of the u.s. department of justice. >> at the center of mr. clark's plan to undo trump's election loss was a letter. mr. donoghue, on december 28th, mr. clark emailed you and mr. rosen, in the draft letter he wanted you to sign, and sin to georgia state officials. you testified that this could have, a quote, grave constitutional c

this involving the department of justice. e a draft letter, that are witnesses refused to sign. this letter was written by mr. jeff clark with another department of justice lawyer. the letter was to be sent to the leadership of the georgia state legislature. other versions of the letter were intended for other states. neither mr. clark or mr. widespread election fraud. they were aware of what mr. trump wanted the department to do. jeff clark met probably with president trump and others in the white house and agreed to assist the president without telling the senior leadership of the department who oversaw him. as you will see, this letter claims that the u.s. department of justice' investigations have "identified significant concerns that may have impacted the outcome of the election in multiple states, including the state of georgia". in fact, donald trump knew this was a lie. the department of justice had informed the president of the united states, repeatedly, that its investigations had found no fry sufficient to overturn

department of justice's investigations have, quote, identified significant concerns that may have impacted the outcome of the election in multiple states. the department recommends that the georgia general assembly should convene in special session, end quote. and consider approving a new slate of electors. and it indicates that a separate, quote, fake slate of electors supporting donald trump has already been transmitted to washington, d.c. >> all of this culminated in an oval office showdown on january 3rd with former president trump and acting attorney general rosen, clark and others staffers. it was in that meeting when trump revealed he was ready to appoint clark as his new attorney general. >> the president turned to me, and he said well one thing we know is you, rosen, you aren't going to do anything. you don't even agree with the claims of election fraud. and this other guy, at least might do something. and then i said, well, mr. president, you're right, that i i'm not going to allow the just department to do anything to try to over turn the election. that is true. but the reason f

the department of justice is collecting evidence of crimes. they are engaged in more than 800 prosecutions of people. from everything from assaulting federal officers to interference with a federal proceeding, to conspiracy. which means conspiracy to overturn the government. it there are already multiple guilty pleas along this line and outstanding prosecutions along those lines, too. we think there is overwhelming evidence of this plan to overturn the 2020 presidential election. in coordination with a violent assault on our bodies. the prosecutors are going to have to sort it out with respect to independent and speaking to one member of the committee, i have confidence in the ability of the department of justice to do their job. >> staying on the department of justice, they asked the committee for transcripts for some of the work you have already done. it has the committee handed those transcripts over and has there been any cooperation or any additional giving of all the information you have received? rep. raskin: i cannot speak to specifics

and where the department of justice might actually be in their somewhat plotting investigation. otally get that that can be incredibly frustrating, because on top of that, they are completely silent. so i think that the department of justice is probably not as far along as what we imagine they would be given the evidence coming from the committee. and that is because they are working on different timelines and standards. >> that's a really good caution, a really good point. even those evidentiary questions, like what you can and cannot admit. chuck, what is your feeling about all of this? >> i think asha's point about the committee doing a top-down investigation is an important one and one worth perhaps explaining a bit more. at the justice department, and i was a prosecutor for a long time chris, you work cases on the bottom up and so you try to, if you can induce the evidence and constant stain a conviction, you get people to cooperate. they convict and cooperate and the move up the pyramid. and the committee and i understand this seems to be focused at the top of the pyramid.

beyond the president i do recall saying to people that somebody should be put in charge of the justice departmentened of what's going to be done to their reputation. because the justice department is filled with people like that. >> there was only one reason really to put clark in, it was to rubber stump trump's election lies, don't you think? >> i think it might be easier to lie if you're homemading your mandibles and you can force them to move at will? there were these pregnant causes. i think it really emphasizes and brings to light there was a team normal, a team of people pushing back and that rudy giuliani lying, traitor, lunatics. that dpt, they can also win a defamation suit before rudy spends all the money on golf and wives. >> this idea that the truck driver moved ballots from new york and pennsylvania and maybe the wildest one, italian satellite switching boats from trump to biden. don hugh, called it insanity. it's pretty grim. there a nnks and you find something else to be shocked and af. we need to find someone who doesn't care about your reputation. yeah, i guess your reputation is

a day later, the department of justice describes how the problems created. a chap called the ministry of self-defense leadership chat. and this chap the problems establishing a command structure in anticipation of coming back to dc on january 6. the department of justice describe sister tara coming into possession of a document called the 17 76 returns which describes individuals the pine key buildings around the united states capitol. the oath keepers are another group that the committee investigated. you better get your to dc saturday. >> if you don't, there will be no more public that happens >> it's either president trump is encouraging and bolster trains t em to do it for we want know a fight. we all know that the flights coming. >> the oath keepers began planning to block the peaceful transfer of power shortly, november 3rd election, according to the department of justice, stewart rhodes, the oath keepers leader such was followers that we're not going to get through this without a civil war in response to the december 19th 2020 tweet by president trump.

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this was your sacred space, the department of justice. how is watching this today? >> it was so harrowing for me, because there's -- i think when you saw richard donoghue testify today, that's the soul of the justice department. it's not political. i worked for two attorneys general who went after republicans and democrats alike. they didn't protect their friends. it's a nonpolitical place with highly structured traditions and what we saw today was donald trump blowing past all of them, and look, there's nobody who cares about the criminal case against donald trump more than me and the evidence today was overwhelming about that, but the first thing, my emotional reaction, was donald trump is not fit not only to be president, but even to be in this country. the picture today was a third-rate dictator. that's the way documents in foreign countries behave, not the way our justice department did. regardless of what you think about various presidents,bush, reagan, clinton, nobody treated the justice department this way, and nobody put anyone in the justice department like

that grand jury is the department of justice. i hope that the case will be made clear that crimes were committed, and the president, the former president of the united states, sitting members of congress in the republican conference, will be held criminally liable in this situation. the reason that i drafted the first articles of impeachment as the insurrection was taken place is because i heard and listened as police were going out for the president to do something. i cannot think of a president of any country sitting and watching his capital being taken over, the democracy of his country being undermined and doing nothing to call in the authorities to help stop the. >> yeah, as i have said many times, the insurrection was put down but the attempted coup on our democracy is still very much alive and well and on folding, that has not been defeated. congresswoman ilhan omar, thank you for making time today, i appreciate your insights, as always. after the break, i will speak to harvard constitutional professor, laurence tribe. aure

that is our -- the department of justice is obviously collecting evidence of crimes. i believe that they have, they are engaged in more than 800 prosecutions of people for everything from assaulting federal officers to interference with the print credible proceeding, do you conspiracy. which means conspiracy to overturn turn the government in the united states. there already multiple guilty pleas along those lines and outstanding prosecutions along those lines to. we think that there's an overwhelming evidence of this plan to overturn the 2020 presidential election. in coordination of with a violent assault on our bodies. we are going to lay it out out there. the prosecutors are going to have to sort it out with respect to individual defendants, speaking as just one member of the committee, i have confidence in the ability of the department of justice to do their job. >> stay on the department of justice, in march the asked the committee for transcripts from some of the work that you have already done. has the committee handed those transcripts over? has there been an

not to the department of justice. they have no interest in prosecuting tim heissam for attacking me seven times. twice caught on video. no. they don't care. because half of the country doesn't care to them. but let's go a little bit further. there's been more things that have happened. i mean, i feel like it's almost like high school mean girl behavior. but this is supposed to be congress. well, we also had a situation on june 16, just last week. there was a certain film crew that works for stephen colbert had been basically stalking me all day long, going throughout, following us around here. my staff was very helpful in putting me in the car and keeping me away from them. they ended up outside my office. my staff took me somewhere else so i didn't have to go there. but then, now we find out that it was a certain democrat member who is serving on the january 6 committee who let them in the buildings. and then when the capitol police threw them out it also happened to be congressman jake auchincloss and tim heissam's s

of the president. that needs to be investigated by justice as well. >> you think the department of justice should be investigating the former president for his role here? >> i think the justice department should be investigating anyone, including former presidents, if there's credible fd they engaged in criminal activity. and here we have a federal judge based on a limited set of evidence saying he believes multiple federal laws were broken. but our job is principally to share the facts of the american people and make recommendations about how to protect the country going forward. >> thank you. i appreciate your time. and i will toss it back to you. >> thank you very much. so frank, i want to get you to finish your thought, but i also want to get you to react to congressman schiff there saying that he thinks doj should prosecute anybody or charge anybody who is involved in criminal activity. >> yeah, just to finish up the last thought first. this repeated production of evidence that shows that the president was told by all of his experts there's no fraud here is not just a legal strategy. it's a counterradicaliza

we know almost nothing over the department of justice has. caution to be mindful of those different paradigms is really important. >> let's talk about the development on eastman and clark. because that seems, to me, quite significant. anytime someone and sub searched by the feds, whether it is an elected official, back when i was in chicago covering local politics, it happened every other week with, you know, that means that there is something there. it is not starting from square one. what is your judgment, again, from what we know publicly about the significance of the eastman and clark searches? >> yes chris. i would say there is good news and there is inconclusive news. i think the good news is that they do have people who are some of the major players, and architects of this coup in their sights. specifically jeffrey clark, who was ready to weaponize the justice department and become a part of executing this fraudulent scheme. the inconclusive piece is that the investigation is coming out of the office of the inspector general. this is t

department of justice. >> at the center of mr.ection loss was a letter. mr. donoghue, on december 28th, mr. clark emailed you and mr. rosen, in the draft letter he wanted you to sign, and sin to georgia state officials. you testified that this could have, a quote, grave constitutional consequences. mr. donoghue, can you tell us what you meant by that? >> i had to read both the email and the attached letter twice to make sure i really understood what he was proposing. because it was so extreme to me, i had my hard time getting my head around it initially. but i read it and i did understand, it for what he intended. and i had to sit down and sort of composed but i thought was an appropriate response. i thought it was very important to give a prompt response rejecting this out of hand. there were, in my response, i explain a number of reasons, this is not the departments role, to suggest we're dictate to state legislatures how they should select their electors. but more importantly, this was not based on fact. this was actually contr

the previous democrat-controlled department of justice have conservatively estimated that guns are used 1.5 million times per year to save lives. i repeat, the department of justice under democrat control and leadership, under democrat administrations, have done their studies and conservatively estimated that guns are used 1.5 million times per year to save

the department of justice is collecting evidence of crimes. they are engaged in more than 800 prosecutions of people. from everything from assaulting federal officers to interference with a federal proceeding, to conspiracy. which means conspiracy to overturn the government. it there are already multiple guilty pleas along this line and outstanding prosecutions along those lines, too. we think there is overwhelming evidence of this plan to overturn the 2020 presidential election. in coordination with a violent assault on our bodies. the prosecutors are going to have to sort it out with respect to independent and speaking to one member of the committee, i have confidence in the ability of the department of justice to do their job. >> staying on the department of justice, they asked the committee for transcripts for some of the work you have already done. it has the committee handed those transcripts over and has there been any cooperation or any additional giving of all the information you have received? rep. raskin: i cannot speak to specifics

justice department meddling in the outcome of the presidential election. >> in our hearings, you will hear firsthand how the senior leadership of the department of justice threatened to resign, how the white house counsel threatened to resign and how they confronted donald trump and jeff clark in the oval office. the men involved, including acting attorney general jeff rosen and acting deputy attorney general richard donoghue were appointed by president trump. these men honored their oaths of office. they did their duty. and you will hear from them in our hearings. by contrast, jeff clark is invoked his 5th amendment privilege against self-incrimination and refused to testify. representative scott perry who is also involved in trying to get clark appointed as attorney general has refused to testify here. as you will see, representative perry contacted the white house in the weeks after january 6 to seek a presidential pardon. multiple other republican congressman also sought presidential pardons for their roles in attempting to overturn the 2020 election. in our 4th hearing, we will f

this one focusing on how president trump at the time tried to manipulate the justice department. as one of the witnesses said, to do his bidding on a rigged election and whether that -- forcing that view was in itself pressuring justice department officials to go along with president trump's argument at the time that the election was rigged and that votes were stolen and to -- again, these are former top justice department officials who were going back and forth with the president at the time to say there was no there there. there was no ill legality being committed here and they couldn't sign on to what got up to be ramped up pressure on mr. trump to replace the acting attorney general. but those in the room would not go along with those plans. just some of the inkling of material and information we're getting from this hearing right now as we're learning that there could be an expanded sort of examination of a tik tok on exactly what was transpiring long before january 6. so welcome, everybody. i'm neil cavuto. this is "your world." briefly taking a break in these hearings and the impact

duties. >> as you know, the senate judiciary committee did its own examination of what was going on in the justice department in those final days of the trump justice department, where there was that issue of elevating an obscure environmental lawyer to be acting attorney general, to carry out this plot. and it was that letter that is referred to, sometimes, as the eastman letter, the letter that they wanted the acting attorney general to send to georgia and other states telling officials they are to simply negate joe biden's victory in those states and submit a trump slate of electors for the electoral college. senator whitehouse has been trying to find out where the letter originated. do we know whether john eastman wrote the letter? do we know whether it was written in the justice department, exactly where that letter originated? >> it's providence is a matter of some curiosity. and there are different theories out there. so i don't want to opine about it. because we are only dealing with actual facts, things that can be documented. i will say that it appears -- and i'm going to pay very close attention t

representative perry was urging chief of staff mark meadows to olivier clark within the department of justice. you can now see on the screen behind me a series of attacks between representative perry and mr. meadows. they show that representative perry requested that mr. clark be elevated within the department. representative perry tells mr. meadows deng december 26th that, quote, mark just checking in as time continued to count down. 11 days until january 6th. 25 days until inauguration. we have got to get going! representative perry follows up and says, quote, mark, you should call jeff! i just got off the phone with him. he explain to me why the principal deputy won't work, especially with the fbi. they will view it as not having the authority to enforce what needs to be done. >> mr. meadows responds with, i got it. i think i understand. then we work on the deputy position. >> representative perry than texas, roger, just sent you something on signal. just sent you an updated file. did you call jeff clark? >> mr. donahue, representative perry called you the next day on december 27th. who to

he ignored the department of justice and the department of homeland security. president trump invested millions of dollars of campaign funds purposely spreading false information, running ads he knew were false and convincing millions of americans that the election was corrupt and that he was the true president. as you will see, this misinformation campaign provoked the violence on january 6. in our third hearing, you will see that president trump corruptly planned to replace the attorney general of the united states so the u.s. justice department would spread his false stolen election claims. in the days before january 6, president trump told his top justice department officials, "just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the republican congressmen." senior justice department officials, men he had appointed told him they cannot do that because it was not true. president trump decided to replace them. he offered jeff clark, an environmental lawyer at the justice department, the job as of acting attorney general. president trump wanted mr. c

justice department into helping him overturn the 2020 election. >> president trump ultimately wanted the department of justice to say the election was, quote, corrupt, and leave the rest to me and the republican congressman. the department's top leadership refused. >> three justice department officials took the witness table including former acting attorney general jeffrey rosen. >> at one point he had raised the question of having a special counsel for election fraud. at a number of points you raised request that i meet with his campaign counsel, mr. giuliani. >> we had concluded, based on actual investigations, actual witness interviews, reviews of documents, that these allegations simply had no merit. >> former acting attorney general richard donahue had previously told the committee he threatened to resign if the former president replaced rosen with another doj official, jeffrey clark. >> he repeatedly said that if he was put in the seat, he would conduct real investigations that would in his view, uncover widespread fraud . >> clark's home was raided by federal agents wednesday and federal invest

xfinity. >>> the issue wasn't really about me, but, the issue was, the use of the justice department. it is so important that the justice department adhere to the facts and the law. if the justice department gets out of the role it is supposed to play, that is really bad for our country. i don't know a simpler way to say that. when you damage our fundamental institutions, it's not easy to repair them. >> back with me is my colleague, lawrence o'donnell. joining me now, battery betsy woodruff swan, and matthew miller, former special adviser to the national security council, and former chief spokesman for the justice department. the institution saved the day. there is this sense that the institutions will hold if people of integrity are placed there. i think the concern for a lot of folks is that we are seeing people held, not the current world in which outside the justice department, you now have all the secretary of state candidates, all these legislatures running for office, who have committed themselves to the big lie. can we count on institutionalism to save us? >> what you can gen

department's environmental decision. clark drafted a letter for the justice department to send to the state of georgia. >> this letter claims that the u.s. department of justice's investigations have, quote, identified significant concerns that may have impacted the outcome of the election in multiple states. including the state of georgia. >> reporter: it was patently false. and the top lawyers at doj rejected it out of hand. >> it was so extreme to me, i had a hard time getting my head around it initially. i thought it was very important to give a prompt response rejecting this out of hand. >> reporter: january 3rd, acting attorney general rosen found himself in the oval office with clark, the president, and top doj lawyers. >> geoff clark was proposing that jeff rosen be replaced by geoff clark. and i thought the proposal was asinine. >> reporter: officials told trump he would do what the president was demanding and find real voter fraud. >> so, i said, mr. president, you're talking about putting a man in that seat who has never tried a criminal case, who has never conducted a criminal investigation. it's impossible, it'

of our democracy here. for more than a year the justice department and the january 6th select committee have worked separatelyve shared a common goal, justice. to hold accountable those responsible for the attempted coup from rank and file insurrectionists and all of the way up to perhaps donald trump himself, but in recent days, right up until this very afternoon, in fact, there were concerns about escalating tensions, friction between the two sides. earlier this week doj officials pointedly renewed a request they made of the committee back in april, regarding its refusal to turn over full transcripts from more than a thousand witness interviews including those with leaders from the proud boys from the doj's letter in part, read this, it is now readily apparent that the interviews the select committee conducted are not just potentially relevant to our overall criminal investigations, but are likely relevant to specific prosecutions that have already commenced. well, the news that we alluded to this afternoon, a spokesman confirmed an earlier new york times scoop to our team on the hill that the committee wil

it looks like fraud and the department of justice should open an investigation. whether there is an open referral or investigation, the department of justice has an investigation. they've already issued subpoenas in the elector case. i think because they have issued the subpoenas in the grand jury case, that will ultimately lead to eastman, which will ultimately lead to pulling the this red on the sweater, will lead to eastman and pence. so it's a moot point on whether or not they send a referral or not. because it's already opened. what they need to do is issue a really good report for history and then let the department of justice do their work. >> jackie, as we are launching this, there are so many people in the country who believe in the big lie. they are still being told by prominent politicians from the republican party running for office that there was fraud. that it was stolen. this is all still out there. the committee has a really tough task in trying to, although they're laying it out clearly, convince people who are being deliberately misled by the peo

the department of justice describes mr. tarrio coming into possession of the documents of the returns which describes individuals occupying around the united states capitol. the own keepers are another group the committee investigated. >> you better get your as to d.c. saturday. >> if you don't, it's either president trump is encouraged and bolstered, strengthened to do what he must do or we wind up in a bloody fight. we know that. the fight is coming. >> the oath keepers began to block the peaceful transfer of power shortly after the election and according to the department of justice, the leader said to his followers we're not going to get through this without a civil war. in response to december 189o2020, tweet by president trump, the oathkeepers came to d.c. on january 6th. one of the president of the chapter said the president called us to the chapter, told us to keep it wild. the committee learned that the oathkeepers set up quick reaction forces outside to have the city in virginia where they stored arms, the goal of