it is about assessing the budget proposal for the department of labor and the department's performance and adherence to statutory mandates. however, your effort to evade transparency at the 11th hour calls into question your ability to fulfill your duty as a potential secretary of labor. i think secretary sue, you are sitting here today only because i informed you i would issue a subpoena to compel your attendance this previously agreed to hearing. to reconsider trip cancellation. i am glad to consider that lapse in judgment. i'm unaware of this committee ever meeting consider such action for department annual hearing until now. you cannot run from this responsibility. congress and the american people have questions about how do you have been running the department. overall biden's fy 2024 budget calls for 1.5 billion more in discretionary spending for the department of labor than it received last year. considering your continued unwillingness to provide fully responsive answers to committee oversight requests, this budget increase can only be seen as a tacit nod of approval by the pre

i know the department of labor and the department of commerce supports the department of commerce and the department of energy in the he implementation of these historic investments that we have made to grow domestic manufacturing. i appreciate your leadership in making these pathways available to more women. getting more women in the work force. as this committee considers re-authorizing the work force innovation and opportunity act, i want to highlight the potential of strategics -- strategies and partnerships, particularly those that link employers with community colleges and other institutions of higher education. another example from oregon, an innovative partnership between industries, universities, community -- portland community college where the university researchers and students work on industry, developed research problems, and provide students with hands on experience to get the skills they need to become skilled workers. portland community college has the willow creek campus that forged lasting relationships with the oregon-based advanced manufacturing and semiconductor

some lawmakers who have pursued these bills say the existing department of labor regulations are simplyot really being enforced. >> one of the reason the department of labor in our division isn't pursuing these cases is because it is one of the least funded governmental agencies. it doesn't have the capacity to pursue these cases in the way that it should. but is also a statement to where our values are. just because they are not investigating these cases or bringing them to e table doesn't mean the act itself isn't wrong. and isn't a crime and a law isn't being broken. >> there are efforts to revise the federal regulations on the books. there is a bill from congressman dusty johnson of south dakota which would expand working hours for children year r. what's going to be the interplay between efforts on the federal level to change department of labor regulations and what we are seeing on the state level? >> i think the chances of not getting anywhere are about the chances of me being appointed to the supreme court tomorrow. i'm not overly concerned about that. the department of labor, t

i've the oversight of the department of labor department of labor investigating or coming look at meevery time. my payroll and records i published. they look at those. every employee on my farm gets a separate paycheck with a wage statement. so participating in h-2a program is one way we can make sure there is an farm labor abuse. >> thank you. senator graham. >> so let's see if i can do a recap. does everybody on this panel agree is it 40%, mr. chairman, of people working in agriculture are here illegally? is that generally accurate? >> senator, that's probably a low number and farm labor actual crop growing harvesting of crops that is probably a low percentage. >> the data from the labor department says it's about 44% that are undocumented but that's difficult population. >> nearly half is what we've seen from the federal government so yes, the consensus is a bear. >> let's assume for for a mt it's half. all right america, half the people in the food supply chain, vegetables and peaches and all that other stuff they like to eat are here illegally. if they all left tomorrow what wou

the department of labor is pursing farmers out of business. this will be the first year in which the united states imports more food than it exports. that should be a clear warning to policymakers that government policy must change. we need a solution that provides farmers access to labor with a fair cost structure that enables them to remain competitive in the marketplace. otherwise, we will be totally dependent on foreign countries to feed us. mr. chairman, thank you again for the opportunity. chair durbin: adam lytch. >> good morning. our operations span several states, and we produce a variety of specialty crops. let me thank chairman durbin and regan member graham for the opportunity to come here today to speak on this issue. the domestic workforce crisis -- >> can you pull your microphone closer? thank you. >> this history transforms politics and we need reforms that will allow us to have a stable workforce. like many farm kids, a group wanted to do the same thing my father did. i grew up in the fields alongside him and other workers. it

that means, increasing funding for the department of labor's bureau of labor affairs. lso means that the state department tip up is funding and u.s. he i.t. funding should shift to focus on workers rights, freedom of association, prevention of forced labor, and prevention of all forms of human trafficking. second, focus on corporate accountability. all of us have seen the series in the new york times about children exploited on the night shift in slaughterhouses in the united states. it's 2023. this is appalling. corporations should face prosecution. administrative finds, and department from u.s. government contracting if they are found to have held workers, if they are found to have held children in forced labor. or if they have benefited from that forced labor. hold diplomats and they're sending states accountable for trafficking of a three and g five domestic workers. we have requested sanctions in the -- case. mandate in-person registration interviews with domestic workers on a three g five visas to prevent trafficking fight up about, and to allow them an opportunit

department of labor or took the restaurant's 3 owners to court and won in addition to repaying $140,000 in back pay and damages to 35 employees. the talk of owners were also found guilty of denying employees overtime over 40 hours and that they paid managers from the employee tip pool illegally. they also threatened employees who cooperated with the labor department. >> even firing one, they thought complained and threatened employees over immigration status. the department of labor wage and hour division is is committed to holding employers accountable even with crazy schemes like this. >> and we won't tolerate workplace retaliation or discrimination or threats. and we will definitely take action against employers who do so, including with strange schemes like this. alex caprariello news nation. >> coming up next, his first giants looking for get this their 10th straight win as they host the padres will have a live report from oracle park. coming up. >> and today is the official start of summer right now, 30 million people are dealing with the heat tomorrow. we'll with the heat tomorro

that's according to the department of labor. it says last year the number of minors employed in violation of child labor laws was up 37% from the year before and up to 283% from 2015. but several industries are facing a worker shortage that has more states introducing legislation to loosen child labor laws, most recently iowa. our correspondent dan lieberman traveled there to take a look at the issues, the law and talk to a migrant child who was trafficked as an underage worker for the next. i had to work a lot from 7 p.m. to five in the morning. the work was hard, so i would get tired and then i would fall asleep and miss school. this iowa teenager says he was trafficked from guatemala to the us two years ago, and at age 15 was immediately put to work for his own protection. his face and voice are concealed and were using the pseudonym pedro clem. when i arrived in virginia, i worked in construction for about five months. they brought me here to iowa. i worked in the plants where they pack eggs. i seen werewolves. he's no longer

labor who found those children who need help packing in the middle of the name. it's a departmentf labor that found out one thing that we need to do to protect workers and prevent human trafficking is from the department of labor so the inspections can take place. >> thank you. i began by entering probably the very common experience for survivors of human trafficking whether labor or sex trafficking is the overwhelming sense of isolation that you can turn to no one there is no one coming to rescue you there is no one going to help you, that keeps you silent for years sometimes decades. when i began to realize i was not the only one that there were others out there like me, of course it was sad but also very encouraging and empowering to know that there are others out there and sadly the experiences that are trained to make a difference. my first encounter was with a nonprofit in colorado that was doing great work and i learned there was a human a trafficking counsel called the governor's council and collection of professionals trying to improve laws in colorado on antitrafficking

thing about this is that this was sort of this was an ancillary discovery on the part of the department of labor it was an issue just with unpaid wages. then they happened to discover that the employer was doing this otherwise we wouldn't have known about this and reminds me of autoshop that recently after a department of labor unpaid wage dispute paid the employee in oil soaked pennies. dumping it all over his driveway with an expletive message cracks me up in this day and age there's i guess a regulatory body that we can depending on the good old dol to uncover humorous stories. with 70,000 dollars enough punishment for this boss? >> listen i'm kat lek i go to confession now i have to be extra care who feel i go with. this takes up a research to another level. [laughter] >> don't trust anyone mayor. >> very true you never know if it is hillary clinton sitting on other side like -- all right -- >> not spooning her so i know that. that's all goods. >> going to have your graze scars all over your face. >> i have like a priestley caller because i've married people. do you think i should come to fo

have this multidisciplinary approach of it by the federal government, you know, we need the department of labor and agriculture and education and state department, we need every single agency, every single division of the federal government to have a role in this. but then what else we need are two things or three things. we need collaboration. last year otip collaborated with ovc to have a project together and it was fantastic to see the department of justice and oh tip -- otip saying let's see how we can advance this together. having different federal agencies reach out to each other, if department of education says i'm not sure how we do this, let's go call the department of justice ovc and see what they would recommend, great. you do not have to reinvent the wheel for each individual division of the federal government would like to reinvent the wheel. start with who is ahead of the game and get their information. i think across agency across divisions of the government is important. i think certainly as congressman smith has indicated, it's included for to make sure there is a limitation. w

the department of labor is also a task force to combat child labor exploitation, my question is, will the department of justice be coordinating with the department of labor on criminal referrals, and possibly join this task force? >> of course i read the same article you are talking about, and i was horrified by the reporting. our criminal division and our civil rights division are reaching out to the labor department, to try to be of assistance as much as possible. there is only a limited number of criminal statutes that would apply. i would point out that we have a forced labor task force, which has been a very active in general. it includes problems with respect children, and i met with them yesterday and they assured me they would be reaching out as well. >> i look forward to following up on that. but i also can't help but acknowledge some of the dynamics that lead to these situations. we know that from the private sector we have heard that there is a need to address the demand for workers. there is a shortage in america today across a number of industries and sectors. there is a

[applause] i say that because you have the department of labor that is presenting policies for businesshat they have to make sure they consider esg policies as a means of their investment in doing business. i don't think the government needs to tell business how to do and make a profit. if we disagree with them, let's don't punish them either. it's business, its freedom, it is their right to run their business without the government telling them how to do it. i don't believe we should yield to the administrator of state in washington, d.c.. when i say that, i am talking about the waters of the united states of america. waters of the u.s. in which the epa defined in such roadway to the regulatory power, it took the u.s. supreme court to say you went too far, congress didn't give you that authority, and we are striking it down. as president, i will make sure i use executive authority to control the administrative state that doesn't burden our businesses, farmers, ranchers, and our way of life. whenever you look at what's coming out of washington, we need parents running our schools. we ne

i say that because you've got the department of labor that's presenting policies for business that they'vegot to make sure they consider esg policies as a means of their investment and doing business. i don't think the government needs to tell business how to do and make a profit. i don't believe we ought to yield to the administrative state and washington dc. i'm talking about the waters of the united states of america. the waters in the same month in which the epa defined in such broad ways in the revelatory power took the united states , supreme court congress didn't give you the authority and we are striking it down. as president i will make sure i use executive authority to control the administrative state that doesn't burden our businesses are farmers or ranchers and our way of life. whatever you look at what's coming out of washington we need parents running schools we need parents engaged we need parents making decisions. and we need to make sure we empower our local governments to make decisions so they don't all come out of washington dc. these are unprecedented and unpredictable

years working in the government, working with agencies like the food and drug administration, department of labor, department of education, to work with them before the regulatory proposals go out the door to the public for consultation. host: the idea to avoid what we're talking about, congress stepping in and trying to pull back some regulations after they go out the door? guest: that is part of it. you get to the point of a disapproval, it is a failure. agencies work hard on the rules. it certainly takes a month and may take them years. a represents hundreds of hours of their effort to try to do the best regulatory proposals they can. at the end of that, to have congress swoop in and disapprove it, it is something the agencies want to avoid. so oira review touches a number of topics, not just reviewing the congressional act disapproval but that review, the point is to make sure these rules are ready to go out in the public and agencies consider the trade-offs of other actions and they have done their best to expand to the public and to potential future judges down the line all the things they

the employment of the general department of labor cooperation and social welfare of isfahan province has been determined in the implementation of the plan to determine the employment status of afghan nationals who participate in the population and housing census. in 1401, more than 72 thousand requests in 5 fields of industry, construction, agriculture, services and mining have been assigned preliminary assignments, seyed mehdi qaim maggi added that the employment of foreign nationals in isfahan province is conditional on having a residence permit and employment in jobs is allowed . there are 24 foreign countries residing in isfahan province, most of them are afghans. artistic achievements and capabilities of afghan artists in the form of visual arts , handicrafts, traditional clothes and ornaments in the qur'an cultural center, holding this festival to support the position of immigrants and refugees, to show their capabilities and solidarity between the two nations of iran and afghanistan. the aim of the festival is to hold the title of the first cultural and artistic festival of ou

news agency in the 13th national festival of health-oriented employers from 42 people in the departments of labor health homes of the service coordination council. health care and employers in the last one or two years since the 13th government, the number of health care centers in large workshops and small centers has increased by about 400 percent, and this work must continue until we are in the workplace compared to before. the discussion of safety and in the discussion of outpatient treatments, the actions of ajra ishallah rahman and the action in 1401, only according to the actions that have been taken, approximately one million new workers are covered by the services of this network, providing human services with the cooperation of my colleagues in the ministry of health and social security organization for health and vitality of workers, population and family preservation of the environment, reduction of harmful factors and prevention of addiction and its damages and mental health have been the most important axes for selecting people in the field of prevention of occupational diseases , i

department of labor took the festaurant's 3 owners to court and won in addition to repaying $140,000 back pay and damages to 35 employees. the talk of owners were also found guilty of denying employees overtime over 40 hours and that they paid managers from the employee tip pool illegally. they also threatened employees who cooperated with the labor department. >> even firing one, they thought complained and threatened employees over immigration status. the department of labor wage hour division is is committed to holding employers accountable even with crazy schemes like this. and we won't tolerate workplace retaliation or discrimination or threats. and we will definitely take action against employers who do so, including with strange schemes like this. alex caprariello news nation. >> the republican led house of representatives has voted to censure california congressman adam schiff making him only the 3rd member to suffer that particular rebuke since the turn of the century kron four's. catherine heenan has been looking into all of this. she's here with the details kathleen. well,

my question is, will the department of justice be coordinating with the department of labor on criminal referrals and, possibly, join this inter agency task force? >> of course, i read the same article that you are talking about. i was horrified by the reporting. our criminal division, our civil rights division, are reaching out to the labor department, h h s, to try to be of assistance as much as possible. there are only a limited number of criminal statutes that would apply. i would point out that we do have a forced labor task force which has been very active, in. general include problems with respect to children. i met with them just yesterday. they overshadowed me that they would be reaching out, as well. >> i look forward to following up on that. i also can't help but acknowledged some of the damage that leads to the situations we know from the private sector we have heard that there is a need to address the demand for workplace origins. there is a shortage across a number of industries and sectors. a report of 11 million unfilled jobs, many of which have historically been filled

if you don't pay salaries, you can apply for help to the department of state labor inspectorate of the ministry of labor and social protection, this department has a division in all regions of the country, addresses and phone numbers are posted on its website guide.gov.by, in addition, lawyers of the federation of trade unions are always ready to help. they advise injured workers free of charge, help them go to court and protect human rights. in court, too , for free, details about this type of assistance and phone numbers for contacting are on the trade union portal one professional bike. remember that in order to protect their rights , one does not need to justify the need to provide for loved ones , the president is doing everything possible so that belarusians feel not only the protection of their rights, but also their human dignity. and if you are fed breakfast and withhold money, you need to immediately seek help. some employers should emerge from the nineties and accept the fact that in a state of law, ignoring the right of people will not work. well, civil servants should not

and the department of labor. the department of education to work with them before the regulatory proposals go out the door to the public for consultation. >> is the idea to avoid exactly where we're talking about. congress stepping in and trying to pull back some of these regulations after they go out the door? >> that's definitely part of it. from my perspective if you get into the point of a disapproval it's a failure. agencies work really hard on their rules. it might take them months. it may take them years. it represents hundreds of hours of their effort to try to do the best regulatory proposal that they can. at the end of all of that. to have congress swoop in and disapprove it is really something the agencies want to avoid the review touches a lot of different topics certainly not just avoiding a congressional review act disapproval. but that review is the point of it is to make sure that rules are ready to go out to the public. that agencies have consider the trade-off so different actions that they're co

department of labor took the restaurant's 3 owners to court and won in addition to repaying $140,000 y and damages to 35 employees. the talk of owners were also found guilty of denying employees overtime over 40 hours and that they paid managers from the employee tip pool illegally. they also threatened employees who cooperated with the labor department. >> even firing one they thought complained and threatened employees over immigration status. the department of labor wage and hour division is is committed to holding employers accountable even with crazy schemes like this. >> and we won't tolerate workplace retaliation or discrimination or threats. and we will definitely take action against employers who do so, including with strange schemes like this. >> alex caprariello news nation. >> a new study on homelessness says nearly one-third of all the people who are unhoused in the nation live in california, a study from uc san francisco says there are more than 171,000 homeless people across the state, nearly half are over the age of 50 7% over the age of 65 41% had never been homeless

s. department of labor complaint she said. busy after she brought her safety concerns to like that, she was subjected to psychological exams and a phony diagnosis that had the potential to end. her career and administrative judge sided with her in a december 2020 order. but the airline drag did speed to implement the decision. the complaints that carly made were that delta had falsified training, records had conducted retaliatory line checks. and the airline treated employees unfairly and outside auditor hired by the airline found that the allegations were true. and delta eventually made changes to its policies and its training manuals. but in the meantime, carlene was suspended with pay. a doctor chosen by delta said that she suffered with bipolar disorder, but the airline couldn't fire her because every time she was examined by a psychiatrist, she was deemed to be mentally healthy. there was no bipolar disorder or any other mental health disorder. the airlines goal was to have her declared mentally unfit to fly, so that they

i pledge to you we'll go under my leadership, under my tenure if he department of labor. i can't sit here at this moment and tell you with certainty everything that's going to happen. we tried several times, myself and several members of the committee, she would not commit to not bring a new joint employer rule. finally, i asked ms. su about the economic performance of her home state of california where she was the secretary of labor for governor gavin newsome and was the labor commissioner for several years before that. i asked her if she knew where california ranks among the states when it comes to its unemployment rate. she did not know. the answer is that california has the second highest unemployment rate in the nation. i asked acting secretary su if she happened to know which state has the highest poverty rate in the country. she didn't know. the answer once again is california. i asked acting secretary su if she knew which state has the lowest rate of earnings growth, net earnings growth of any of the 50 states, she didn't know that, either. once again the answer is

reena: the monthly jobs report is out from the department of labor, showing a robust 339,000 jobs added in may, much more than economists expected. the american job markets resilience has defined expectations -- defied expectations since the onset of the endemic. >> this report defies expectations. there were a lot of headwinds to jump off to pull off numbers like these, higher interest rates and inflation. reena: jobs added in health care, construction and government. >> even though this is a robust job market, people are having a hard time finding the right job. reena: the report showing the unemployment rate rose to 3.7%, another closely watched number, wages, up .3% for the month, in line with economist expectations. higher wages can stoke higher inflation, but experts say the gains in the report are not alarming. this report could keep the federal reserve on its current path of raising interest rates, increasing your borrowing costs for a mortgage or your credit card, as part of its effort to cool down inflation. president biden hailed today as a good day for the american economy a

so it's also likely that the department of labor aid was working closer to with the increase rocks and you countries at the moment, uh uh, discussing a new deal on migration on a side of this has been a topic that's, that's gone back as far as 2015, it hasn't been resolved. what would you like to see in it? i mean, we have spent 20, fran, i need the, i know one and provide it is the situation to happen. i mean, just as a, we have 700 to it might have to be or is that something that could be avoidable? non talk is important to, to remark. we expect that they was able to put in place a new lead of framework that facilitate to my investment webpages, to access their vice according to the human rights convention. we also spent the case the capacities within the european union for members. this the response to the situation at the moment, what was the subject congress, which at the 1st entry point of the one dealing with this crisis. and it is not much something that you'd be willing to utilize the engineering, which is comfortably kind of what we have seen, for example, where they, you kin

we found that m-m in the department of labor. the twenty-first year , a methodology for determining the need was developed. objects of the russian federation of the economy and the largest employers in the professional staff in the medium and long term, we studied the methodology her technique is excellent. eh, you can absolutely work on it. uh, the trade unions are ready to get involved, but we need forecasts. this should be absolutely known throughout the economy, as far as ratings are concerned, we actively support them as well. uh, rating introduction. we would like to add that apart from the national ranking. it seems to us important that the ratings are comparable in the industry, it is necessary to compare with the comparable, therefore, the industry ratings are things, a very important industry, some very big young people can choose where to study not necessarily in your region in accordance with the rating of the educational institution, but. we are still worried. uh very low in the country. uh, the so-called target educ

s. department of labor complaint, she said after she brought her safety concerns to light that she was subject to the psychological exams and a phony diagnosis that had the potential to end. her career and administrative judge sided with her in a december 2020 order. but the airline drag did speed to implement the decision. the complaints with currently made were that delta had falsified training, records had conducted retaliatory line checks. and the airline treated employees unfairly and outside auditor hired by the airline found that the allegations were true. and delta eventually made changes to its policies and its training manuals. but in the meantime, carlene was suspended with pay. a doctor chosen by delta said that she suffered with bipolar disorder, but the airline couldn't fire her because every time she was examined by a psychiatrist, she was deemed to be mentally healthy. there was no bipolar disorder or any other mental health disorder. the airline's goal was to have her declared mentally unfit to fly, so that they could fire her and she couldn't then be hired by another

as i said in the us department of labor complaint, she said. busy after she brought her safety concerns to light that she was subjected to psychological exams and a phony diagnosis that had the potential to end her career and administrative judge sided with her in a december 2020 order. but the airline drag did speed to implement the decision. the complaints that carly made were that delta had falsified training, records had conducted retaliatory a line checks. and the airline treated employees unfairly and outside auditor hired by the airline found that the allegations were true. and delta eventually made changes to its policies and its training manuals. but in the meantime, carlene was suspended with pay. a doctor chosen by delta said that she suffered with bipolar disorder, but the airline couldn't fire her because every time she was examined by a psychiatrist, she was deemed to be mentally healthy. there was no bipolar disorder or any other mental health disorder. the airline's goal was to have her declared mentally unfit to fly, so that th

the white house and department of transportation and department of labor are monitoring the situationnvolved to continue to negotiate in did fa-- in good faith. we are hours away to see if this is a repeat of friday. >> thank you, lori ann. >>> coming up on "worldwide exchange," the one word every investor need to know today and a new warning for markets. the key factor one major bank says could slam the brakes on the rally. >>> june is pride month on cnbc. we are celebrating and sharing the stories of corporate leaders with you here is equinox leader >> being gay is not a liability. it is the creativity and resilience and the empathy you bring to the table that is valued in any team and workplace. don't settle for anything less pick people to work with and places to work at and not where they just tolerate you, but celebrate who you are and what you bring to the table this is dr. arnold t. petsworth, he's the owner of petsworth vetworld. business was steady, but then an influx of new four-legged friends changed everything. dr. petsworth welcomed these new patients. the only problem?

with the support for the carl perkins and department of labor grants to build hope. require states to match your investment. has tacoma done everything we do? not yet. we are making a difference. we have evidence. we know through engage. our students are being more successful dealing with individual emotions and stresses. developing their social awareness and working academically at all times. finally, america schools and individual communities can't do this alone. we must work through partnership. we know it's not easy. there are egos. however we are in this together. we may not be united on everything, but our future is with us now and we must be united in our commitment to senator sanders: let me begin the questioning. ms. russell tucker, you mentioned summer programs and after school programs. one of the things that we have to give young people a lot of positive community-based activity. can you talk about the impact increased funding for after school and summer programs has had in connecticut? ms. russell-tucker: i appreciate that question because it is an impor

. >> todd: what was your reaction when the department of labor called you?needless to say, i was very shocked. and saddened by the fact that anyone found wrong in what i was trying to do. i was trying to do a good thing and give back to my community. to find out someone thought i was trying to labor minors, it was unreal. >> todd: cam, why did you start this lemonade stand in the first place? >> i asked my mom to go to disney world. >> todd: literally, you started it so you could go to disney world to make some money. what did you think when you heard somebody wanted to shut your stand down, cam? >> i got sad. >> todd: i'd be sad, too. i'd be another emotion. crystal, do you have any idea who reported you? >> i don't. first thing that comes to mind, who could dislike us that much to go that far and i have no idea. i'm sure that whomever did it is pretty -- right about now. >> todd: what is your message to them? >> thank you. because of that person, it had the opposite effect of what they were trying to do. it propelled us quicker in our endeavor. i don't har

the department of labor says it's one of the most corrupt acts they have seen.uss out a fake priest? >> i think i probably could. these people obviously did. give them credit for ingenuity and creativity. i guess it was either this or the aliens have arrived. unless you spill the beans on your coworkers they will take you to mars. they figured bring the priest in. we've heard of the sisters of perpetual indulgence. meet the father of perpetual indolence. who knows at this point? the fake priest could be honored by the dodgers next week. it was in sacramento. we will see what happens. this is an outrageous story of religious impersonation being used to steal from workers. this guy had taken $140,000 in wages and tips from his workers. the labor department is demanding that that be given back to those people. to use a fake priest in this way, shame on them. >> if he changed his gender maybe he wouldn't have liability anymore. thank you. tomorrow night florida governor ron desantis joins us here exclusively. tune in. have a great evening. sean "hannity" is next wit

you know, we had some distortion because of the juneteenth holiday that the department of labor made ntion of that but if you if you look past initial, if you look to number of people continuing unemployment benefit that continues to increase. we've had three months in a row where 90% of the u.s. population lives in a state with rising continuous claims. we've seen a steady drumbeat of small businesses go out of business. chapter 11 filings are up 100% year-over-year. charles: right. >> you will see that in initial jobless claims? of course not. if you're your own self-proprietor, got your shingle you will not claim unemployment benefits against yourself. >> right. >> that will not be seen in the data but we're seeing companies drop like flies. latest cfo survey, 40% of small business owners cannot access credit. it is too expensive. charles: i believe somewhere in the pipeline myself, i do. i goat to ask before i let you go about the stress test. it was a doomsday scenario. 40% decline in commercial real estate. 100% decline in housing. it was just, you know, everything, 38% decline