humanity center at harvard university in chicago we go to richard lee he's a professor at the department of philosophy at apollo university and in washington we cross to william burns he's a professor at george washington university all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want there are difference of opinion here and i'd like my viewers to see it if i go to home in cambridge first when the word west is used first of all do you like its usage its application and what does it mean to you. well i don't like the word west when it's used in a kind of simple polarity with something that is not to the west because i think these geographical issues have really changed quite a lot but i think on the other hand one cannot ignore the fact that there are certain institutional political and financial arrangements which are very much aggress to the interests of what we would call your america in a very general sense and i think that's the entity that is often associated with the west whether it's called of washington consensus at some time or some other such me so i thin

of a black freedom struggle. >> actually a little more than 40 years ago i was teaching at ucla. because i was fired from my position in the philosophy department there, my whole story began there. you might say it's a trajectory from one campus to another campus with a lot of very interesting, dangerous and exciting encounters in between. >> one of those major encounters obviously was you being the third woman in american history to be on the fbi's most wanted history. >> that's interesting. i had forgotten. i had actually repressed that fact and was speaking somewhere and someone introduced me as the third woman in history to have been placed on the fbi's most wanted list and everybody in the audience applauded. >> that moment in history, too, it was almost an honor to be pursued in that way because you were fighting for black liberation. >> but it was also very scary. i became involved in a whole number of campaigns. the soledad brothers was one of the campaigns in which i got involved in. it was as a result of thy activities i found myself charged with what were at that time three capital crimes, murder, kidnapping and conspira conspiracy.

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attorney, i respect the department, i love the department of justice, but i'm getting concerned about it and i'm not happy with some of the decisions and philosophy that are emanating from the department. i believe they do not reflect the highest standards and qualities that we expect from that great department, and this nominee has a lot of good qualities. i believe he has a number of strengths that as management has some experience in the department that i would give him credit for. but at this point in history, i believe that his approach, particularly to the war on terror, along with the attorney general's approach to the war on terror, are not good. i have just about had enough of it, and i'm just going to say this. i'm not voting for another nominee, and i'm not going to vote for this one who spent their time defending terrorists. before they go to the department, it's all right to defend an unpopular person, but 13-16 members of the department of justice, political appointees by this administration have had as their background defending terrorists, including the solicitor general who is going to be coming up, i guess, in committee this wee

attorney, i respect the department, i love the department of justice, but i'm getting concerned about it and i'm not happy with some of the decisions and philosophy that are emanating from the department. i believe they do not reflect the highest standards and qualities that we expect from that great department, and this nominee has a lot of good qualities. i believe he has a number of strengths that as management has some experience in the department that i would give him credit for. but at this point in history, i believe that his approach, particularly to the war on terror, along with the attorney general's approach to the war on terror, are not good. i have just about had enough of it, and i'm just going to say this. i'm not voting for another nominee, and i'm not going to vote for this one who spent their time defending terrorists. before they go to the department, it's all right to defend an unpopular person, but 13-16 members of the department of justice, political appointees by this administration have had as their background defending terrorists, including the solicitor general who is going to be coming up, i guess, in committee this wee