there speaking for more i'm joined tonight by isabella horns or call yours she's head of the department of psychiatry here in berlin at the sharp hospital doctors good to have you back on the day what are you hearing from from patients what are your colleagues saying is this pandemic is it making us mentally ill. well it does it it is it is actually taking a toll on all of us and that is you know normal but and that we're all worried and but we will get through this i think however those vulnerable groups the elderly the mentally ill to begin with our patients. younger people middle aged people who might be losing their jobs or who have already lost their jobs and their businesses who are facing economic and then also health care especially in the united states health care worries those people will certainly be affected you know as much as they will develop depressive syndromes and depression leads to you know not only mental. mental suffering but also physical suffering and addiction might increase so it's really a vicious cycle here between mental and physical illness and a cycle social well being

. >> i think i'd love to point out that one of the things some of the hospitals are doing is the psychiatry departmentse creating support groups and options for them to go talk to people. and i think that's a really important thing because now we're create something community around the struggle and the health of running, running, running. they're able to stop and slow down and talk about the concerns, the fears, the worries. so i think some of the warning signs are exactly what dr. roy was talking about. and in addition, do you notice a change in demeanor? do you notice a change in mood? do you notice there's more tears? do you notice there's more stress? all of those things are things we need to be looking at. dr. roy, you mentioned the challenges that physicians placed before this pandemic. does it make it worse for them that they recognize the pressure that so many people are putting on them right now to help save this country, really, from this pandemic, seeing them as sort of god-like characters right now on the front lines? >> yeah. i'm really glad you asked that question. i can tell you that i

they have tele-psychiatry appointments, full-service pharmacy and colorado state department of corrections phil sees, those that don't have a fraction of these amenities and if you believe the hysteria driven squad it's absolutely ridiculous the incitement to violence is not just speculation. in all the targets and the shots that were fired in san antonio, the cocktail throwing at the cis office in florida, and obviously attacked by the antifa in tacoma. if they had fallen on the other side, this would be declared an epidemic in congressional hearings out the walls do of how to prevent the epidemic of violence from continuing. >> you make a great point, i will add one more point about the ice facilities, one consequence of the massive influx, almost 900,000 people who have been apprehended since last october 1, that is not counting apprehended as you know. 600,000 have been caught and released. a huge number that we have to find a place to put them, where are they going, they're going to ice facilities. when i was at the facility in aurora, i was told that 80% of the 1200 are people who ha