. are selling trainers, clothes, all sorts -- depop. you say, it has retail value if they sell it on again. will fast fashion ever be consigned to the history books, or not? we are nowhere near that, are we? we are nowhere near, but they say it is a question of when, not if. i think in the next ten yea rs when, not if. i think in the next ten years we will definitely see it growth decline or steady. i think in the us we are expecting to see by 2028 the secondhand market being worth $61; billion, to fast fashion‘s $35 billion. so we will see changes there. and for companies like primark and h&m, they have huge pressures on them like rental pressures , pressures on them like rental pressures, as well. those pressures, but also consumers are more savvy, when a company says it is carbon neutral, it is often down to carbon offsetting, and people are interrogating whether that is good enough. and many of these companies have recycling initiatives, where it is bringing your clothes and we will give you a discount for how much you can spend in