i'm here with my two guests, derek gaskin and father theo from saint brendon. we're talking about the interfaith dialogue, derek we were talking to you about the interfaith council in san francisco. father, you shared a little bit about your upbringing in nigeria and the challenge of trying to live and trying to build a trust between the two faiths, you know, from the muslim and catholic perspective actually. father, share with us any other insight, any other thought you would like to share with us now. >> thank you, chris. looking at it, it was a pilgrimage, a lot of complications, we can draw from the nigerian situation, you see the holy father, one visit with his friend, two friends, one a jewish rabbi, ache ham -- abraham scoz and a muslim friend, it was saying they have got to live in peace in nigerian -- >> just a minute. 50 years ago paul vi, the first meeting of the muslims. you're talking about the most recent week, the picture of the holy father with the imam. >> yes and also the rabbi. >> yes. >> we can draw from that. the muslims and the christians