stock of that effort's strengths and weaknesses, we are joined once again by: retired colonel derek harveyer special adviser to the commander of u.s. forces in iraq, and now director for the global initiative on civil society and conflict at university of south florida. and janine davidson, a former air force pilot and deputy assistant secretary of defense for plans during the first term of the obama administration. she's now a senior fellow at the council on foreign relations. we welcome both of you back to the program. janine davidson, up until now now how effective has this coalition been against the islamic state? >> i think it depends how you define being effective and it depends how you define progress in this entire thing. i think there's no doubt this is an unprecedented coalition, to be able to pull together the types of countries across this region to focus-- i mean, on the very first night of air strikes to have mathat many countries participating. i think that's kind of amazing. that's on a military perspective. but at the end of the day this isn't going to be fully military so