i figured they shot derek kenny. the next thing i know derek kenny is brought back into the box. i said what happened. he said the grease gun had a wire handle. it fires on a forward motion. the slide is always back around the chamber. when he was beating this englishman, the gun went off and he killed himself. they took him. that was the last i saw of derek kenny. i used to hear him every night hollering and cursing because they were beating him up. then eventually i ran into him at this other camp camp 2. they had 21 of us in this one building with a fence around it for the first time. there was just a straw mat. there was separation with the straw mats. there wasn't like we were in a room or anything. we were outside. >> yeah. >> my box was outside. >> right. so one box. >> there was three boxes together. the empty one was in the middle and the englishman was in the other one. during the daytime you had to sit upright. at nighttime, you could lay down, but you couldn't stretch out. we were very skinny in those days. >> once you get out of the box twice a day, how long do they

i figured they shot derek kenny. the next thing i know derek kenny is brought back into the box. i said what happened. he said the grease gun had a wire handle. it fires on a forward motion. the slide is always back around the chamber. when he was beating this englishman, the gun went off and he killed himself. they took him. that was the last i saw of derek kenny. i used to hear him every night hollering and cursing because they were beating him up. then eventually i ran into him at this other camp camp 2. they had 21 of us in this one building with a fence around it for the first time. there was just a straw mat. there was separation with the straw mats. there wasn't like we were in a room or anything. we were outside. >> yeah. >> my box was outside. >> right. so one box. >> there was three boxes together. the empty one was in the middle and the englishman was in the other one. during the daytime you had to sit upright. at nighttime, you could lay down, but you couldn't stretch out. we were very skinny in those days. >> once you get out of the box twice a day, how long do they