you all these dies pie looks fantastic. >> we are outside here in the fox lot with our friend derek thomas landscape this is a time of year where plants begin preparing their roots, this is something they do themselves for the winter time, and you say this is a good time to divide your perennials i am not sure i know what that means. >> well, perennials are plants that will come back each year, there is a reason this is a really good time for dividing perennials roots are at a point where they are building up, nutrients and everything, if you have plants a little bit over crowded, like this mint this is you know mint and herbs are not normally thought of as perennials but there are a lot of perennial herbs and that would be a good time to divide those, things like this after that have finished blooming, but underneath, you can see here, that it really does -- it has a lot going on it has some babies coming in. >>> corral bell you know the nice thing about dividing and perennials this time of year see this plant is really really high and compacted there i have already divided it once tony i

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