derek thompson is senior editor at "the atlantic." he says it is. while joe rideout, a spokesperson for a consumer advocacy group, disagrees. joe, you feel this discount won't serve the targeted audience. why? >> to begin with, i think it's just too much money for someone who is struggling to put food on their table without assistance, to expend another $72 a year to sign up for this service. it's something of a discount from $110 a year and kudos to amazon for trying to come up with ways to reach out to new groups. i just don't think thermal makes that much of a difference, particularly when it comes to getting groceries. >> derek, you think it does make a difference? >> sure. they have 50% discount on their products, a lot of companies don't offer discounts to people just because they're on snap or on food stamps. nobody is forcing these families to buy prime memberships. i have some friends who have prime memberships, others don't. it's good for a company, even if this is pro profit, even if it helps them in the long run, it's good for the compan

mike isaac, derek thompson and max chafkin. >> uber is big but i don't think it's as big as it thinks it is. lyft is comin' on. uber has been pouring money from venture capitalists for years, subsidize effing riride we take while pushing its drivers to accept less and less money. the fact they're still not making money is telling and potentially troubling. >> glor: we conclude with the president of princeton university, chris eisgruber. he spoke to david lean hart of the "new york times." >> i find our students inspiring. i find they have an extraordinary commitment to service and a strong set of democratic values. do i think they're at a time when they're asking the question, what does it mean to act on those democratic values and how do we express them through the electoral system right now. so they're brogue up at a time -- so they're growing up at a time when many believe, a as o i, that climate change is an extraordinarily serious problem of great urgency for our planet, but they're looking at legislators and finding them unable to react in a way that seems to address that proble

i spoke to max chafkin of bloomberg "businessweek," derek thompson of "the atlantic" and mike isaac of." >> this was pretty stunning in the sense travis kalanick, the c.e.o., had full control of the company in almost every way. he was c.e.o. he had voting control. and he had board control. so he had to be the one to decide to step away, and it's something that was pretty much unthinkable a few months ago. >> glor: derek it will be led by someone, least for now, other than travis kalanick. but travis kalanick was and is uber. >> exactly right. travis is as responsible for the bottom line, rest new, as the culture. in many ways the revenue came out of culture, this incredible relentless focus on improving the product, making sure it was as good as possible, growing, growing, growing, and allowing some of the top reformers in the country get away with that with what we now know was heinous behavior. >> glor: the company is still losing money. >> they have big battles in many sphaeps they have been pouring money from venture capitalists for years and years subsidizing every ride we take wh

joining me from california's mike isaac of the new york times, from washington, derek thompson of thetic, and max chafkin of bloomberg businessweek. i'm pleased to have all of them. for a company that makes news every week, this may have been the biggest of all. max: yes. this was pretty stunning. travis kalanick, the ceo, had full control of the company in almost every way. he was ceo, had voting control, and or control. he had to be the one to decide to step away. it was something that was pretty much unthinkable a few months ago. jeff: he had board control and then he did not. mike: that's right. they slowly started turning on him overtime. the problem was he stacked the board seats in his favor. he has a few close friends that have been in his corner. suddenly, the directors, which have building -- billions of uber,s writing on hoove believe they need to get someone other than travis. jeff: so it will he led by somebody other than travis kalanick. but travis kalanick was uber. derek: that's right. he was responsible for the company's bottom line, the revenue, and the culture. in m

derek thompson is senior eld or the at "the atlantic."ig business. why? >> for a long time there wasn't a lot of innovation in food, you know, for decades, go to a grocery store, a restaurant, that was basically it and maybe you could order pizza for delivery. right now you have -- we're in a bit of a golden age of food innovation where people are realizing you can take the same principles of e-commerce that worked for books, that worked for clothes and use them to deliver food to people and that's really created this movement where you have some of the biggest companies in the world. nestle, the biggest food company in the world, investing in this new revolution. >> what's the key? >> i think one is convenience. you have a lot of people who feel harried. they want to cook but they don't necessarily have time or the wherewithal to go to whole foods and buy this stuff so they order a meal kit that brings it to them. in many ways it continues the sort of long historical line of convenience where with bookings, for example, 1990s, people sai

derek thompson is aenior editor at the atlantic. big business. why? >> it is interesting. for a long time, there wasn't innovation in food. for decades, you went to a grocery store or restaurant. that's it. maybe order pizza for delivery. now, we're in a golden age of food innovation right now. people are realizing that you can take the same principles of ecommerce that worked for books, for clothes and use them to deliver food to people. it's created this movement. you have the biggest companies in the world. nestle, the biggest food company in the world, investing in this revolution. >> what is the key to it? >> one of the keys is vooe convenience. people want to cook but don't have time or the wherewithal to go to whole foods and buy this stuff. they order a meal kit that brings it to them. it continues this long, historical line of convenience. with books, 1990s, people said, who wants to buy books online? bookstore it is where it is at. we want to buy books online. >> now taking on whole foods. what does it say to you? >> i thi