he said, are you derek thompson ? yes. what a derek thompson? yes.ah. >> he said, we're the police. i said, thanks for that. he said, drive over the top of the hill. drive in the farmhouse running. we've got it surrounded. and it was the farmhouse of maxwell's, the, the trainers and, over the next 12 hours, i think i did about 12 phone calls, with the supposed kidnappers of shergar. yeah. and at half past midnight, the last call came through, and i kept the guy on for about one minute, 35 seconds. and. and the police were sitting next to me, and when the phone went dead, i said, did you trace the call? he said, did you trace the call? he said, no. the man who traces the calls went off shift at midnight. so and then the call came through at seven in the morning. the horse has had an accident. he's and accident. yeah, he's dead and was found . was never found. >> gosh, what an extraordinary thing, derek, to get caught up in the middle of absolutely extraordinary . extraordinary. >> 40 years on, i still remember every. i bet you it was frightening. i be

derek thompson joins me on talking pints before all of that, pints but before all of that, let's getou and good evening to you. well the bank of england has held the interest rate at 5.25% for the fifth time in a row today. the bank of england governor, andrew bailey, saying the economy is not yet at the point where rates can be lowered. but he said things are moving in the right direction. inflation is expected to fall below 2% by the summer, but the bank of england said the conflict in the middle east and disruption to commercial shipping in the red sea risked further price surging . the work further price surging. the work and pensions secretary is warning that britain's acceptance of a mental health culture has now gone too far. speaking as he unveiled plans to get 150,000 people back to work, mel stride said that the benefits bill was being pushed up benefits bill was being pushed ”p by benefits bill was being pushed up by a sharp increase in the number of people who are on long term sickness benefit . in an term sickness benefit. in an interview with the telegraph, he suggested