he's not just offering information to derepaska, he's offering information to putin. if you give this information, you have to expect or assume it's going to go elsewhere. and if, you know, and if -- and starting june 14, 2016, is the day that "the washington post" reveals that the dnc has been hacked. and right away, you know, the news reporting is that the russians are behind it. so at that point in time, any point from that point on, if you're talking about giving information to the russians, if you're meeting with the russians, if you're reaching out to the russians the way george papadopoulos was. you are working with or agreeing to help people who there's at least strong evidence if it's not conclusive yet who are attacking our campaign, our election. >> right. >> you can watch this and other programs online at booktv.org. >> booktv is on twitter and facebook, and we want to hear from you. tweet us, twitter.com/booktv. or post a comment on our facebook page, facebook.com/booktv. >> i mean, i think more and more cities are realizing they need to have something li

. >> you know, chris, if i could point out, it wasn't just the relationship with derepaska and the financial, the debt there. he was also owed. he and kilimnik believed they were owed tens of millions of dollars by this opposition block, the pro-russian sort of follow-up success ker party to viktor yanukovych's party of re-jens. kilimnik traveled twice to the u.s. during the campaign when trump -- when manafort was chairman of the campaign. my sources tell me at one point said he was in trump tower meeting with manafort and they were discussing both the relationship with deripaska and how they could collect on what that he believed were these unpaid fees from this ongoing political party in ukraine that was aligned with russia. this is during the campaign. >> so here's the big question, natasha. we we're all looking at michael cohen. there's news he might be ready to flip. manafort has shown no signs of wanting to do that despite the fact that there's a good chance that he enters is jail tonight and never sees the outside of a jail cell for the rest of his natural life. >> prosecutors that i

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