no medical peals, dermaplaning. but get facials and deep cleansing. 30s and 40s it is a good idea to start getting more medium depth medical peals. fine lines and wrinkles and 50s and 60s we have the wear and tear of life on our side. peals, lairs treatments. stuff like -- laser treatments and stuff like that. it is where you are, what you want to do. we enjoy doing that. >> sounds like it is all about giving you what you want and getting you back out with no down time. >> i put myself in the place of a consumer. i have to be talking to my students every day and helping clients. i need something that is result oriented and with little down time. >> what is the biggest mistake we make when it comes to skin scare? trying to over dry it out -- [ talking at the same time ] >> how do we do that? >> overly chemical pealing, too many laser treatments. too much. always a good idea to err on the side of caution. a little goes a long way. we look at these things. >> less is more. >> less is more. [ laughter ] >> but effective