joining me now is derrick johnson, president and ceo of the naacp. and david jolly, former congressman and msnbc political analyst. derrick johnson, i'm going to allow you to respond first to what the court has done today. >> well, it's unfortunate. you're correct, elections do have consequences. clarence thomas is a grifter. he's benefitting from positions that he actually -- for taking positions he benefitted from, but for desegregating society, we would not know clarence thomas. clarence thomas is an unfortunate outcome of a tradition of black people grifting off their race to betray their race. it is unfortunate. what we have seen the supreme court do in the decision was to undermine the question of equal protection under the law, that no state should use race as a proxy to discriminate for political gain. we are living in america in 2024, not 1950s apartheid south africa. >> i think they wish we were living in 1950s apartheid south africa, including clarence who thinks somehow he might benefit so long as he's some rich man's pet. let me go to yo

. >> joining me now to talk more about this tragic shooting is derrick johnson.e is the president of the nwa cp. derek rachis. see you so i mean from roger fortson's family to his attorneys. i mean, this is upsetting for many reasons. how do you use you see this well, another example, when you don't have any accountability metrics for police officers to de-escalate scenarios. >> but in this case the question is, what crime was committed, what client was allegedly committed? there was no prime he simply was seeking to answer the door of a police, not and at some point, we must as as a society determined the type of nation we will like to be as opposed to what's taking place and 2023, we had a ten year high up these involve shootings of individuals significant number of those individuals are african-america ns and a large number of those individuals or an arm. >> when will we stop this madness and address this public policy fiasco where we allow in law enforcement officers just to kill people and never be held accountable. this bodycam footage reveals the the deput

song or performed live action version of a carmen in college, i was introduced to revivalist by derrick johnsonnductor, vocal arranger and creator of a vocal ensemble that laid the foundation of what would become ccm. derrick and his vocalist debbie johnson expand my understanding of sacred music beyond the boundaries of the pentecostal praise and worship tunes of my upbringing. he taught me to appreciate recognize west coast pop and jazz harmonies along with black gospel and southern gospel standards. after i graduated, i married an aspiring ccm artist and moved to tennessee in 2001, when ccm at its pinnacle in terms of prosperity and cultural influenc in, i found myself doing what a lot of peers with humanities degrees did, working at a coffee shop. two of my favorite customers were charlie and andy ashworth, whom i only knew as west coast fellow west coast transplants. i discovered eventually that charlie was an award winning singer songwriter, jazz artist, pianist, producer and record label executive w h book about ccm. charlie ended up offering me a job as his assistant. and i worked at ch