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he had the right to fire comey. >> who is right paul butler or alan dershowitz. >> alan dershowitz mostfully. now, here is why. even if trump said these things, it is not a subjective standard on how comey felt if comey felt he was ordered or directed because he wasn't. trump is allowed to fire comey, point-bla point-blank. trump is also allowed to say, hey, i hope you let this go. he's allowed to say prosecute or not prosecute. the question, how do i reconcile what professor dershowitz says, the question is did trump have corrupt intent. and joy, we have no corroborating evidence of that right now. it's not like clinton with the blue dress. there has to be more evidence at this point. >> professor dershowitz was actually my cripple law professor and here is why he was wrong. corrupt intent is ordering the vice president, the attorney general, jared kushner and reince priebus to leave the room. >> to have privacy. >> to have a private conversation that you know we're doing wrong will that's what we prosecutors call consciousness of guilt. as far as trump dn' know about washington ways,

by way of to being news -- seems like both sides are throwing out various >> dershowitz makes a goodnt, that is that there is no, i agree there is no constitutional independence for justice and fbi, this idea somehow the fbi is independent from the president? it's not independent from the president. it was never set up that way. congress didn't set it up that way, the constitution doesn't set it up that way. james comey wants it to be that way. but that's the world of james comey. >> tell me, jack, i want to ask you, do you think it is smart for the president to say that he would 100% talk under oath and dispute these claims? is that a smart thing for him to do >> yes, because it probably would never happen. i couldn't imagine the forum in which that would happen, the media will try to hold him to that. it's a smart thing to say because he knows it would never happen. trump was very convincing today. i think, what you have is he said he said, when comey was talking about the obstruction, he waffled on it. i expected him to be a lot stronger in talking about the pressure that trump pu

>> my judgment is that alan dershowitz is wrong. it's not even a close question.se, we don't have all the facts, but his position is the facts don't matter. the president simply cannot be guilty of obstructing justice because as head of the executive branch, he can completely control any prosecution. the supreme court has twice rejected that view. unanimously in the nixon case, by a vote of 8-1 in the morrison case. the fact is that the president has all kinds of powers, but if he abuses them, for example, by accepting a bribe from russia or any of a number of other things, if he does in a corrupt way or with threats of the kind that he made to comey about his retaining his job, if in either of those ways he interferes with the due administration of justice, that would be obstruction of justice, even under the federal criminal statutes of 18-usc section 1503, but even more important, it would be an abuse of power that could be an impeachable offense. it's more serious than what nixon did. it's really impossible to argue that no obstruction of justice could be pres

let's talk about this with alan dershowitz. was caused by the death of antonin scalia last year. what could justice kennedy's departure mean for the court? he leaves now, especially in the current political climate. >> so it would mean the substitution of a more ideologically right wing justice for a right-leaning centerist justice who has strong views about the rights of gay people and health care and a range of other issues. so i think we see some change in some decisions but i have to tell you, i think we way exaggerate the impact of the supreme court on the daily life of americans. i have been watching the supreme court for more than 50 years. and i can only think of maybe a dozen or even fewer cases where the supreme court has really made a difference in the life of the average american. obviously, the desegregation case would be one. the gay marriage case. abortion case would be another. but you really you can count on one or two hands -- take for example the issue of money in politics. money in politics apparently doesn'

for an amino, alan dershowitz, professor emeritus of harvard law school, great to have you with us. >alan: my pleasure, i've been looking forward. >> martha: thank you, with the looking forward to having you. i want to put up one more piece of the his peace because he's been highly critical of this president. this is a very big about-face for him. he said "things are so bad that i'm going to have to get from the last word." on june 15th he tweeted and he goes on to say they made up a phony collusion with the russian story, found zero proof so now they go for obstruction of justice on the phony story and he comes back to say unless there's some new revelation, that may turn out to be pretty accurate commentary. >> alan: i think he's right. we are seeing it from both sides. what happens in america is if you don't like someone politically, lock them up! throw the key away! each side criminalizes political differences with the other side. they did it with hillary clinton, with the espionage and the email server, that was never going to be a real crime and they are doing with donald trump.

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i agree with professor dershowitz it can never be an obstruction of justice. facts are almost irrelevant. >> do you agree? over the weekend don jr. says when my dad says hope he's not asking you a question, he's telling you what to do. >> i'm not sure i know how to characterize what the president did and whether it's obstruction of justice or not. that's a factual question about his intent that hasn't been answered. as a legal matter, though, i don't agree with david or professor dershowitz and neither does the u.s. supreme court that exact argument was made in the morrison versus olson case the original case that tested whether or not the independent counsel law was lawful and it was rejected. now it may be that that's no longer good law ins terms of where we've come since that time, but for my money existing supreme court president has an existing strong ground on which to stand. the question will come down to whether or not the president had what they called a corrupt intent in firing comey and, you know, there's at least an argument that he didn't. he was

jeffrey toobin and allen dershowitz.has retained an outside attorney to deal with the special counsel, not only is it his right to do so, i would assume any lawyer worth their salt would say to do it. >> that's exactly right. i mean, there have been many, many significant developments in this investigation recently. mike pence hiring a lawyer is not one of them. i mean, he is, obviously, going to be interviewed at some point. there may be document requests. he did the prudent thing in hiring a lawyer. but i don't think it suggests anything about any possible culpability of his part. it's a nonevent, as far as i'm concerned. >> professor dershowitz, "the washington post" reports that the special counsel is looking at obstruction of justice. you've beened a mapt that the president did nothing criminal. do you take issue with robert mueller investigating the possibility of obstruction? >> well, first of all, i want to comment on what you said about talking points. i don't provide talking point. >> no, no, you certainly don'

people like alan dershowitz argue the opposite.nk in the instance it comes across as partisan. i'll say it in this regard. when you have private conversations with a president-elect or president himself, bharara is one of 93 u.s. attorneys that serve at the pleasure of the president. every administration, the president has the right to fire or let go the u.s. attorneys. in this case, you are supposed to. it is protocol to submit a letter of resignation. whatever happened at trump tower, bharara was given the privilege of staying on. that changed. i feel it is unseemly. >> bharara thought it was unseemly. it is interesting if any other attorneys had conversations. asha, president trump said 100% he would testify. you worked as investigator before. i have to believe that would be music to your ears. hearing someone involved in the case one way or the other. 100% i will testify under oath. good for investigation, maybe not good for the person who makes that claim. i was talking to alan dershowitz friday night who told me that presiden

dershowitz is correct. there is no general structure or constitutional principle that overrides the obstruction of justice law. it can't be the case that the president has absolute plenary authority to do whatever he was with the law enforcement machinery or the -- for "house of cards" fans it would be like if president underwood in that show during the timed the fbi to stop investigating his chief of staff who, you know -- spoiler alert -- at some point in the show knows a lot about what the president has done in violation of the law. that wouldsh -- >> be prepared for a lot of tweets there on the spoil are drop. the president pushed back on comey's testimony sometimes say it vindicated him, other times says comey was not truthful. does it make sense for the president to act in this way, do the strategy? or does this carry a risk? >> i think it's not that unusual of a kind of defense strategy in a criminal investigation. you on which fight on several fronts as once, you might concede certain things, and th

is that obstruction, is it, as alan dershowitz said, a mafia don saying that i hope something will happentjust a suggestion that the director is free to ignore? if it we re director is free to ignore? if it were a criminal charge, a jury would have to make a decision. this will never go to a criminaljury, so it is even more complicated. it will be important. striking that we didn't learn anything new from the testimony. director miller and his investigation may be under pressure. thank you forjoining us. president of the national cost of tuition centre talking to us from la. —— constitution centre. across the country, people are casting their votes in the general election, nearly 47 million voters registered to ta ke nearly 47 million voters registered to take part and polling stations are open until 10pm. the main party leaders have been out casting their vote. casting her vote and waiting for millions of you to do the same. theresa may and her husband, philip, out visiting their local polling station. a short time laterjeremy corbyn had a smile and a thumbs up as he arrived to cast his

and harvard law school professor emeritus alan dershowitz who says no, there's not.ay the role of silent judge on this, but i do have an impressive gavel. jeffrey toobin, you start. why do you believe you could see obstruction? >> no one is above the law. that's the message of watergate and american history at its best. the principle here is that obstruction of justice is just a law like any other and the president is bound to follow it. in 1974 the house judiciary committee voted articles of impeachment against richard nixon on the grounds he obstructed justice by using the fbi improperly. i don't know if donald trump is guilty of obstruction of justice, but i do know the facts that are public now suggest that an investigation is entirely appropriate. think about the context here. the fbi was looking at michael flynn, a grand jury was impanelled and donald trump went on a mission to stop that investigation. he approached the fbi director, james comey, repeatedly and including in the famous valentine's meeting he said let it go, let it go. and he knew, one could argu

we're joined by professor alan dershowitz. thanks for being here.o some like anita hill who testified she had been sexually harassed by clarence thomas. do you think it is a big deal? >> no. it is not a big deal because we have the notes. there will be no major surprises. >> we don't have the notes of what they purportedly say. >> and the notes will come out and he has the notes and knows what they will say. he will stick very very close to the notes. the reason this may end up being good for trump, not bad for him, is there will be an opportunity for republicans to cross examine him very harshly. he is hated by the democrats and republicans and the democrats believe he turned the election over to the republicans and the republicans because they now think she's turning against their president. he will have a pretty hard time in front of that congressional committee. the other myth that has to be dissipated that somehow mueller has to give him permission to testify. congress comes first. the justice department comes second. congress is an independent

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as much as i admire alan dershowitz, i think he is completely off base with this. >> being developed against president nixon in their bill of impeachment when president nixon resigned rather than face that trial. >> that's right. and the abuse in that case was remarkably similar to this. nixon, rather than himself telling the fbi to lay off was little chicken about it. he essentially told the cia director and others to lean on the fbi. well, apparently very much the same happened here. we have reason to believe that president trump told dan coats and told admiral rogers to reinforce his threat to the fbi director by telling the fbi director to lay off of flynn. and of course we know that he directly fired comey lying about the reasons, and he did it because of the russia investigation. and he also abused his power in lying about the reasons. that is when director comey, who is a mild mannered man, who does not call someone a liar easily, when he said the president lied in saying the fbi was in shambles, he added that the president defamed the fbi, undermined that vital national insti

dershowitz makes a powerful point here, no? >> absolutely right. i don't agree with him on all politics, on the issue of legal procedure and presidential power, he has been dead-on. in his analysis. this is someone i think everybody can respect. he is absolutely right. the president himself can direct the department of justice and the fbi. he's right about the tradition, but let's be honest, president trump is not a traditional president. he's not going it go along with all the protocols and traditions. he's going to try to get things done the way he has in business. that's why he got elected. i hope we get back to governing. he's right, the president can step right in and demand the department of justice stop t investigation. they can't miss usthoffice to start investigations based on political reasons, that has nothing to do with stopping investigations. liz: jordan, thank you so much for your time. good to see you. >> thanks, liz. liz: next up, watching the british election that could affect markets here. conservatives leading with 314, accordin

i did my first big case with alan dershowitz but he's wrong here. three key points, boris. one, there is strong enough initial evidence to open an investigation. and mueller is opening an investigation of obstruction of justice here. the danger -- number two -- of trump girthing on camera and saying, no, i didn't do it, mueller's going to accumulate other investigation, other evidence that trump did obstruct justice. his own son corroborating it today on tv. sessions will corroborate it if he says, yes, the president kicked me out of the room. then the third point, the most interesting point, the one that alan raises, is can a president obstruct. i believe, and a majority of scholars believe, yes, as a matter of law. a president can obstruct justice. congress has the power to cabin that firing authority, and they have done it by passing an obstruction statute. the obstruction statute, alan, is just like the bribery statute. you wouldn't say president trump could take a bribe from vladimir putin to fire jim comey. senator can he fire jim comey with corrupt intent. and there

joining us, alan dershowitz, jeffrey toobin back with us as well.before we get to all that, i want to ask you, professor, you came in here saying, i know what flynn was doing. >> i figured it out. flynn's lawyer is playing this very tough game. he is sending a message to the president. he's saying, my client flynn is not going to jail. he can either make a deal with mueller or you can pardon him. and if you don't pardon him, we're going to mueller. that's twhe two options you hav in front of you. >> that's the message you think he's sending? >> he's a very shrewd lawyer. we know he went public earlier. he's trying to send the message to the president that i have options, and my options are with mueller. if you don't want me to go there, you have a way of preventing that. it's called pardon. it's what bush did to weinberger, follow that path. he has only one interest, flynn's lawyer. keep flynn out of jail. it's very tough, very uphill. the only way to do it is not on the merits because he's going to lose on the merits. it's by either making a deal o

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professor dershowitz is back with us. today the president said he would be willing to testify under oath. if you were his attorney, would you advise him do this? >> absolutely not. that's what got bill clinton into trouble. you never, ever advise a client to testify under oath. you don't want to get into he said he said contest with comey. comey has a long track record of being very credible. president trump unfortunately does not have a long track record. i think that to expose your client to the jeopardy of a possible perjury prosecution or perjury impeachment -- remember, bill clinton got disbarred for perjury, would be a very, very serious mistake. he doesn't have do it. >> to follow up, professor, to be clear here, you don't think the president did anything wrong? you are saying even though you don't think he did anything wrong here, that it would be foolish to agree to testify under oath? >> i think the president did a lot of things wrong. i don't think he did anything criminal. he did a lot of things wrong. he neve

you have professor dershowitz, professor turly from george washington university saying they don't seethe question of the president's authority to launch an investigation or end an investigation. again, that's a constitutional question that, you know, much smarter legal minds, i think, are going to be battling it out. >> you're plenty smart, but carrie is a legal mind. i want to bring in carrie on this. i heard lot yesterday that the legal landscape for jeff sessions became more bleak after comey's testimony yesterday because comey seemed very aware of whatever it was that precipitated the recusal from the russia investigation. what's your take? >> well, it was clear that former director comey when he testified yesterday, he indicated that there's more involved with respect to attorney general sessions and the -- and the ongoing russia investigation. what that was, he didn't say. he did sort of allude that he was going to talk more about it in closed session, which means that there's probably more on the counterintelligence side that he has to inform the senate intelligence committee.

also with us professor emeritus at harvard law school alan dershowitz who flew in from london and also with us the writer behind "the washington post," "the right turn" blog jennifer rub he en. thank you for being with us. i want to pay another part of the interview with jay sekulow. jake tapper asked him whether a president can technically commit obstruction of justice. here is his answer. >> in this particular case you had a scenario where the president receiving advice from a variety of his government officials was told by his attorney general and by his deputy attorney general that james comey should not be leading the fbi. it is ironic that based on the action that they recommended, that he took in consultation with others, that he's now being investigated by the agencies that told him to take that very action, removing the fbi director. >>> so, alan, the president's lawyer initially said multiple times he's not under investigation, disregard the president's tweet, but then we just played this clip in which he says the president ironically is being investigated by the person who s

incidentally alan dershowitz is totally misreading the political situation. the republicans are in charge of the investigative committees in the house. >> shannon: do you give him credit then? the republicans, the fact that you're saying -- >> no, absolutely. i give richard burr credit, i give chuck grassley credit. i think that they are mounting serious investigations. i would only go further than alex in saying the real core of the investigation that mueller is conducting and the house and senate intelligence and judiciary committees is about not just russian interference in the election but whether or not the trump campaign colluded with the russians to undermine the election in favor of donald trump. this is really going to be not the politics and what members might say, it is gonna be what is found. i think that's what people need to take a break, take a breath, let mueller and the senate and house committees do their investigations and we'll see where they lead. >> shannon: so far what we're hearing from people on both sides of the aisle is so far they'

alan dershowitz said there is no statute that has been violated.iend of the president said donald trump is to give out whether or not to fire the special investigator investigating collusion between the trump campaign in russia. what is your advice to the president on that one? that is just commentary from a friend. there is no news, yet also a site that anything would happen on that front. but you think they would be a good idea? -- it is unlikely that anything. it is funny that we have a special counsel when the beacon —— when nobody can name anything that has been violated. just an update on that story, and the white house postwoman is saying donald trump has the right to fire robert muller, but has no intention to do so. more on that to come inevitably, but for the moment, we move on. maude demonstrations in the venezuelan capital of caracas, as the country's economic crisis deepens. unprecedented numbers of people are facing hunger. the country should be one of the richest with one of the largest oil reserves in the world. the international me

jesse: professor alan dershowitz, a democrat, says the president's action is not illegal. oosh viewers know you are a democrat. you are there with your buddies making fun of fox news. the fact that you are telling the democrats not to overreach on this russia probe is a big deal, correct? >> i don't know how many people will show up at the chill march porch. i have gotten calls from people saying why am i defending trump? i say i'm not defending trump. i am defending civil liberties. jesse: you don't see any criminality, obstruction of justice, collusion, nothing. >> certainly not on behalf of the president. the president had the constitutional power to fire comey, he had the power to tell him to tell people he was not under investigation. he had the power to tell him to stop investigating flynn. jesse: you are saying the president could fire mueller right now and that would be fine, though you know the media will go ballistic. >> it's a little bit more difficult to fire mueller. the president can order the deputy attorney general to fire him, then fire him if he refused t

it's not just karl rove republican who claims there is no obstruction alan dershowitz, a famously liberal man, says you can't be accused of obstruction of justice, what you are doing is within your constitutional prerogatives. to end an investigation is entirely within the constitutional prerogative of the president. so there cannot be obstruction. >> i would remind everybody comey had a responsibility. if he believed there was a good chance this was obstruction of justice, he had a duty to go to his superior, road rosenstein. rod rosen. he didn't do that. >> what i think is interesting is that undermining mueller's credibility, you don't hear that from from republicans. >> john: panel, thank you so much. great conversation where we come back, ..ck, ♪ >> john: finally tonight you might recognize this symbol from many different places but kiss rocker gene simmons is trying to trademark as his own. he's filed an application with the u.s. patent and trademark office to trademark at the rock on a hand gesture, he says he was the first person to use it back in 1974. however, you might also rec

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the fact is, as you w know, we have seen zero evidence ofee any collusion and people like alan dershowitze made it very clear and the republican lawyers i have talked to served president bush said there's no obstruction of justice there. >> but that side is not conflicted. we are at war and the civil rights movement, we used to have a saying. it is time to choose which side are you on. so we are at war. we have to fight for national identity. we have to fight for our culture. in the 2016 presidential election was our last chance to save the nation, our last chance to save the culture, and therefore we cannot be conflicted. we've got to fight back. >> that's right. the other thing, the department of justice need to put accounts on hillary clinton because where the trump investigation is going is no evidence of collusion, they're going to gogo to an appropriate contact, but they're going to call an appropriate between doj and fbi and the white house. that's affecting what we had was loretta lynch and president obama, hillary clinton and the other people and they need to put a cancel on that

alan dershowitz said democrats are trying to do to trump as republicans do to hillary. listen to his thoughts. >> yesterday it was hillary clinton, today it's donald trump, tomorrow it could be you. when the head of the kgb met with stalin, he said show me the man and i'll find you the crime. that's what my liberal democrat friends are doing, falling all over themselves, trying find a statute they can expand and they can apply only to donald trump and then they're going to bury the statute and try to put it back in the crib. what you do to donald trump today becomes a precedent and can be used against democrats and independents or anybody in the future. that's why all americans who care about civil liberties ought to be very concerned about the investigation that's being conducted in targeting donald trump, whether you like him or not. >> katrina, first is he right? and second do you think what we're seeing in washington is payback for hillary? >> i think he's partially right, i think he's right this investigation is absolutely ridiculous, and it is setting a very dange

i heard professor alan dershowitz earlier saying he knows both comey and mueller were good friends.here's anything wrong wrong and that, it's just the appearance of it, it should have been avoided. now i don't know you can do about it. when it starts rubbing up and moving, it's going to find something. >> kennedy: you have to assume that this was robert mueller's protege and you have to assume that his methodology is superior to anything of the president and anyone else in the administration will employ. this is going to be a natural level of protection that no one else will be afforded. it makes it more difficult to be completely objective. you hope that some of these have objectivity. a lot of these big, high-powered law firms in l.a. and new york and d.c., lawyers are pressured to make political donations to both parties. i have yet to see if some of these people also donated to republicans. the >> meghan: hell problematic to think his relationship with comey is this before going back to your point, is the same point that david west made on the scout yesterday. if you decide you

dershowitz, welcome back. dolls newt gingrich have a point? >> he has a point.d by democrats, have you to be caesar's wife. you have to make sure that everybody on that team is neutral, objective, and has a completely clear record. you should not have anybody on that team who made a $1 contribution to the other side. it should be completely neutral. look, president trump understood that when he said essentially to senator leashman that maybe he wasn't suited at this time to be head of the fbi because he was a politician, although i think he would have been very well suited. is he a very strong guy. in a partisan atmosphere like this, you have to be so careful not to give the other side the ability to claim prejudice, and i think they have given the other side the ability to claim prejudice. brian: for example, look at andrew wiseman, he might be the greatest guy in the world. 2006, 2000. 300 to president obama. james 2008, 2300 to president obama. 200015, chuck schumer got 1500 bucks. hillary clinton almost $3,000. and james quarles. so, like you said e caesar's

. >> legal experts like jonathan turley or alan dershowitz. >> i'm not saying obstruction of justice.eve comey when he talks about loretta lynch. you don't believe him when he says the president of the united states said to back off michael flynn. >> give it to him half the time. the immediamedia doesn't believ president when he speaks all the time. >> the most distressing part for me is an american citizen. you have the president of the united states meeting with the fbi director who was actually conducting an investigation of russian interference in the u.s. democracy. and not once in those sessions did the president express any interest or concern about the russian interference in our democracy. the only thing he wanted to do was pressure james comey to back off of him personally and politically. >> that is further proof he wasn't trying to interfere with the investigation. >> proof he didn't care. >> guys, jason miller, hilary rosen. thank you. chris. >>> on top of what you just heard, when the president asked to clear the room and ask james comey to drop the michael flynn investi

. >> sean: that's exactly what alan dershowitz said. and then this raises other questions.loretta lynch and her obvious obstruction, and did she put the kibosh on any potential indictment on hillary. hillary clinton's obvious felonies, mishandling, destroying of classified information? then, of course, we've got the foundation of hillary clinton and bill clinton giving 20% of american uranium to vladimir putin and getting kickback millions from people involved? >> there are so many questions that haven't been answered with regards to the uranium one deal, with regard to ukraine, with regard to haiti, with regard to the clinton foundation. none of them saw a specialo prosecutor. i think the big concern here is, especially for lawmakers, is what happens with loretta lynch. right there, we know that loretta lynch asked director comey to call the investigation a "matter" not an investigation, and furthermore, that there was an email that director comey obtained between two political figures that serve adjusted that loretta lynch was going to put the kibosh on any indictment aga

now it will be on obstruction, whereas a professional alan dershowitz said, how can the president be obstructing justice when he has the constitutional authority to dismiss the case or to order its dimensional instantly? if he's allowed, i say it's improper, he shouldn't have done it, but the evidence of obstruction of justice when he has the authority to dismiss it completely -- >> tucker: it's insane. the one thing that comey's testimony that struck me was there's probably a lot of regions he would have needed to recuse himself, i can't tell you what they are. >> charles: that's innuendo. >> tucker: it is the lowest form of character assassination. then it turns out according to the leaks in this meeting he didn't have the goods, he had no idea that he may have met with them a third time at some undisclosed place, it was only designed to hurt jeff sessions. the fbi director shouldn't act that way. >> charles: i think trump had a really bad day on the day of the comey testimony. i think comey had a really bad day as well. the idea that he was sort of slanted by the democrats will so

. >> laura: a lot of it, also, alan dershowitz tapped in on this on my radio show this week. he said something interesting. he said when he's like in march that's vineyard with all dim krats, mostly democrats, on the porch of this general store where he has luncheon, he has lunch, a sandwich couple times a week. he said all of the liberals who are his friends are just enraged that he's coming out and saying what he's saying about the obstruction of justice, no collusion, no obstruction when it comes to trump. they said we got to get him. well known lib brats brals, we have to get him, you're a liberal. he said i voted for hillary clinton but you have to beat him at the ballot box. that's the same thing with the journalists. they've become activists. they're participants in the political wars instead of journalists covering serious stories f they want to cover russia, fine, cover russia. they ought to cover what's happening inside of the government when we have, when we have intelligence officials leaking -- critical information or illegally leaking information, that it'sler f

. >> cynthia, from the legal perspective, alan dershowitz has powers and stop the investigation. we know back in the nixon case, congress threatened to impeach. and pressuring the fbi to stay the hell out of watergate and the burglary investigation. is this on par with that or not? >> i would think this is worse. alan is a very smart guy. i'm sure he is smarter than i am. he usually finds things where everybody is innocent. he is not the bellwether person to make the analysis on the prosecution case. this is worse than watergate in my view because it involves a foreign government injuring our voting process. i agree with comey on that. it strikes me as more important. >> this is not about a party going against a party. this is a foreign actor and intrusion. we break apart the layers and we peel back the interference of russia in the 2016 election season. michael flynn and his independent role of having those kind of off the book meetings with sergei kislyak and not telling the full truth to the vice president about it. they said he was canned because he lied on that fact. we have

one is obstruction potential investigation which is pretty solid legal footing for him as alan dershowitzas been arguing everywhere he gets the opportunity. the president can stop a probe whenever he wants. if he is involved, if he is not involved. he can pardon himself. he has extensive powers. that is why you see careful footing about possible investigation. he has a lot of authority in this area. he finds himself in the moment of the national healing. there is no question that the tone in washington and our politics has changed for the worse. everybody knows it. we experience it every day. the president is involved in that tone change. used it to his advantage. now is faced with the decision on his own. what do you think happens after this shooting ? >> we need to have a recognition for a reset in politics. the hate that peel uople to ral the troops is starting to sicken the body politic. the danger with the rhetoric of hate and people who demonize us recognize that. when it lodges in the mind of an unstable soul, it amounts in violence. that is what happened from the left. despite the

i'm not one point, professor alan dershowitz of harvard law ghoul seems to agree with him.ins us tonight. >> i don't agree with president trump on a great many of his agenda issues. i am a liberal democratic demoo voted enthusiastically for hillary clinton. but i think i'm a person of a principal and i realize that what the democrats are trying to do to president trump is exactly what republicans tried to do to hillary clinton. lock her up from a throw away the key. the very people who were pushing for donald trump to be investigated, indicted, and peach come would be on the other side of the issue if the shoe were on the other foot. if they had tried to expand the obstruction of justice statute or espionage statue and apply it to a democrat rather than the republican. we need a single standard of justice in this country. both sides are trying to criminalize too much. if you disagree with people, throw them out of office. don't elect them. the idea of charging your enemies with political crimes is too prevalent on both sides of the political aisle. >> tucker: what fascinate

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that's the fundamental question dershowitz has been asking. >> first of all, i don't know.on't know inpresident, but he certainly seems to be sweating. >> in my view, he wasn't. >> okay, well, why is he tweeting out disparaging comments about john brennen, of course. >> john brennen who said there's no evidence of collusion. >> well, these witnesses are all about honor and integrity and -- >> but, which witness said there was collusion between the trumpcome pain and thugzerize, which witness did you mention with tremendous credibility, which one said it? >> listen, i am just saying that before people testify like james comey, the strategy it seems on your side is to discredit these men. let's let the investigation play itself out. i don't think as a human matter that discrediting these two guys publicly is a good strategy on your part. >> eli, just from a report's standpoint, in terms of what comey has to testify, he is going to have to be very careful. to jay's point, there is an ongoing investigation by special counsel. clearly, he's going to be clearing with mueller what

remember, alan dershowitz, said there was not a case here when the president allegedly told call comey letting this go. what he is trying to find out is whether the president try to get them to shut down any aspect of the russia probe. remember, rogers at the nsa has testified the president never told him to do anything illegal or immoral," said he did not feel pressure to intervene. the fbi leak information regarding the president is outrageous, irrefutable, and illegal. this is not the kind of press the president wanted tonight. it's his 73rd birthday, he has his family here so writing that. and also just a moment ago returned to the white house with family members after going to the hospital where congressman scalise is. just recently tweeting, "scalise is in really tough shape but a real fighter. pray for scalise." >> juan: described by "the washington post" as a major turning point in the this investigation, no longer is it confined to russian modeling or coordination. >> dana: i think this is overriding by "the washington post" and the attempt to get more clicks. we already know