professor dersowitz, do you have any predictions for this debate? is it going to be interesting at all? >> of course. tim kaine is my former student at law school. he's going to win. the only reason we're watching this debate is one of these guys may become president. both candidates are the oldest two people ever to run for office. who ever heard of a guy named harry k. trueman, when roosevelt put him on the ticket and proceeded to die later. one of these guys may be the leader of the free world. >> it is a frightening thoughts. let me put that on record that is i a fright nieng thought. i have a feeling pence is going to have to defend trump the entire time. >> we recently saw he was asked, you know, do you disavow david duke and having a relationship with donald trump, so it's going to be that kind of, you know, circular attack of trump through pence and if you understand that going in you should be prepared. but professor dersowitz is absolutely correct when you have two candidates 69 and 70 for them to go past their first term, absolutely that'