host: to gabriel in derwood, maryland, good morning. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. so my story is i went to a community college, then a four-year, then a vocational which was part of a community college. i now have a degree in radiologic technology. the radiologic technology enabled me to get work and has supported me as i save up money to go back to school for more experience. i have seen a lot of people go straight to four-year and drop out because it's too much for th them. think of going to community college first is best, helps you save money, gets you into the experience and lets you move on without getting overloaded. it would be nice if the federal government also offered grants for continuing secondary research, the stuff we have already discovered in four-year colleges but allow two-year colleges to double-check on them. host: thanks for bringing up the issues. stephen dewitt? guest: you mentioned research at the end. we definitely need more research to support programs and we would also like to see the federal government open