you're not going to get that from ron desantis. ron desantis, i think, has less. ron desantis. so from what we've seen and been on the national level now for a while i haven't seen the humor. i haven't seen the self-deprecating. i haven't seen the entertainment value of ron desantis. now, governor desantis does tremendous job in a controlled environment. when just him when he's got the mike, he's great. he's amazing. there's no one better but i don't know if you go and have a look at some of the debates. ron desantis against andrew gillum in 2018. the democrat candidate who ended up being cocaine addict or whatever was captured in a hotel room with a male prostitute. only the democrats so if you go and have a look at those debates, if you have a look at his most recent debate with crist. okay. desantis is not as good. not saying he's bad, but he's he gets the job done, but he's not as good on his feet. in a less controlled environment, i hope to vote for ron desantis for president in. 2028. i think he can wait for years. florida needs. him. florida wants him. not. so i want him

i just voted for ron desantis, my first vote ever was for governor ron desantis. [applause] >> and i'll vote for ron desantis again. ron desantis is, without any question, the greatest governor in the country right now and it's not particularly close. he is the standout. he has led florida amazingly. now, i want to give, as -- i want to try and -- it's hard to say what i'm going to say without it coming off like i'm not paying ron desantis proper respect, but i want to make it clear that i have so much time and respect for governor desantis. i think he is in many ways the future of the country. but here is also what you're not hearing in the media. over the last three years almost one million, over 900,000 republicans from all across the country in the 49 other states have moved to florida, okay? so, almost one million more republicans, republican refugees, came to florida and they came to florida to be really republican because they couldn't be really republican where they were living before. that's number one. again, know the to take anything away from the 20-po

desantis again. he is without any question the greatest governor in the country right now and it's not particularly close. he is the standout. he has led florida amazingly. now, i want to give, i want to try and it's hard to say what i'm going to say without coming off like i'm not paying ron desantis proper respect so i want to make it clear i have so much time and respect for governor desantis. he is in many waysthe future of the country . but he is also what you're not hearing in the news. over the last three years, almost 1 million. it's over 900,000 republicans from all across the country in the 49 other states have moved to florida. okay. so almost 1 million more republicans, republican refugees came to florida and they came to florida to be really republican because they couldn't be really republican where they were living before. that's number one. not to take anything away from 920 point victory of desantis over charlie crist. not to take anything away from desantis but 1 million people movi

>> and erick, look, we know desantis is a favorite among gop donors.t has been true for a while. they've been looking for an alternative to trump. trump's base, though, voters, have been loyal to trump. is desantis peeling off some of them? is this working? >> yeah, look, i think so. and i realize you see some polls that have trump versus desantis and trump is winning, but it's a drought declared for 2024 versus a hypothetical ron desantis, who hasn't announced yet. i think you do begin to see a shift over time. and these culture issues for trump voters right now kind of dominate. and desantis, behind the scenes, is already saying to people look at these things i got done, including against tony fauci whoa donald trump elevated, causing people to shift. to bakari's point, there is a concern. can republicans flip back to talk about economic issues? i think because florida is such an economic engine for the nation, he'll have that opportunity. >> all right. thank you both very much. >>> and next, vice president kamala harris facing questions about presid

a new poll shows trump barely ahead by the skin of his teeth, 26-point lead over desantis.nce, nikki haley and the rest of the future fox news green room barnacles poll in the single digit. trump is huddling with advisers real estate developers and belarus honey pots to fine tune his attack on desantis. recent weeks trump repeat willed i quizzed some of those close to him, what else do we have on ron? one area which trump and his allies smell that weakness and desantis is on social security. a genius move by trump there to remember that seniors need government support once their kids lose contact because the qanon stuff is just too much. governor desantis is trying to bury in the same hole his years of trump endorsements advanced placement african-american studies pilot program in florida high schools. >> this course on black history, what is one of the lessons about? queer theory. that is somebody pushing an agenda on our kids. and so, when you look to see they have stuff about intersectionality, abolishing prisons, that's a political agenda. >> god forbid florida students

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i just voted for ron desantis. my first vote ever was for governor ron desantis. [applause] and i will vote for ron desantis again. rhonda sanchez is withoutqu any questionhe the greatest governor in the country right now. and it is not particularly close. he is the standout. he has led florida amazingly. now, i want to try, it's hard to say what i'm going to say without it coming off i'm not paying rhonda sanchez proper respect. so much time and respect. he is thet future of the count. he is also what you are not hearing. over thear last three years, almost 1 million almost 900,000 republicans from all across the country in the 49 other states have moved to florida. okay? so almost 1 million more republicans, republican refugees came to florida. and they came to florida to be really republican.ep because they could not be really republican where they were living before. that is number one. again,de not to take anything ay from a 20-point victory of the santos over charlie crist the turncoat, perennial loser. not to take anything away from desantis. butts, 1 milli

you actually went right at ron desantis.the plaintiffs in the lawsuit that is trying to challenge the "stop woke" act. you tweeted references to your own family's history at ron desantis and said to him, this is the history of my own family. these are the things that we dealt with. collecting used books from all- white schools because they couldn't be allowed to have new books. being on the migrant trails in the 1940s. your father not been allowed to be a cook in the navy during world war ii because he was black. have you received a response from ron desantis on the challenges you put forth about your own history? >> not a word. i wrote to ron and manny diaz asking them, what kind of things am i not allowed to teach? how am i not supposed to teach the holocaust without feeling? how am i supposed to teach slavery without feeling? how do i explain to students that someone sold out to someone else and not explain that is evil? one thing i'm being asked to do is to sterilize history. to take race out of it and act as though race

that is the appeal of ron desantis to republicans.see someone who is delivering on that promise. >> will republicans use power? this is my question. will they will powers because if you have a single take awake as the result stands right now, it is that -- what the republican electorate wants is a strong -- who utilizes and wields power over his enemies. and then destroys his enemies and makes them grovel. makes molten, salty tears flow from the faces. as ron desantis did with disney. >> big feelings there, buddy. take a breath. he is right. the quasi-fascists -- is with the republican base wants. this is what trumpism is all about. yes, let's count -- how this is turning it into reality. starting with that example. the feud with business -- disney. since the 1960s, disney has had special privileges in florida. which gives the company full control over the part of the state that contains the theme park, while disney world. desantis is now working to remove that special status for disney. a movie expert say can cause florida taxpayers

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desantis: florida is where woke goes to die. weeks into his second term the administration , has a new target -- banning public schools from teaching advanced placement african american studies -- a pilot course by the college board focused on black history, arts, sciee and culture. the state's department of education wrote this month the course significantly lacks educational value, adding that they would consider a revised curriculum with lawful, historically accurate content. today governor desantis said teaching black history is required in florida schools, but said this course amounted to "indoctrination." gov. desantis: this course on black history -- what's one of the lessons about? queer theory. now who would say that an important part of black history is queer theory? that is somebody pushing an agenda on our kids. and so en you look to see they have stuff about intersectionality, abolishing prisons -- that's a political agenda. geoff: the move stems from the so-called stop woke act desantis signed last year to clamp do

on kind of the woke ideology attacks desantis is doing.to that, presumably with even more aggressive measures. so you can see right away that the initial dynamic is not desantis trying to pivot off trump and maybe make himself think about the general election but i think they are both kind of in this tumble over each other to kind of outflank each other on the right and that obviously has big implications for whichever one, if either, wins the nomination. >> alice, let's talk about this large field you're hoping for and listen to new hampshire governor sununu here now in his fourth term. >> oh, i don't have a timeline. obviously folks are talking about it. but i don't have a timeline. i've spent a lot of time nationally trying to grow the party as republicans. talk to independents. talk to the next generation of potential republican voters that right now no one is really reaching out to. you're considering it? >> yes. >> so he's considering getting in. is he one of the non-trump and really non-trump affiliated, didn't serve in the administ

in the case of desantis, there are a lot of polls where desantis is ahead of trump.expect him to come after desantis pretty hard. trump's the only person officially in the race, but it sure looks like desantis is going to run. the florida governor looks like the one who might have the reservoir of support among all corners of the party to beat donald trump in a primary. >> what do you make about this phone call with nikki haley calling him saying she wants to get in the race and feeling him out. he said, if that's what you feel in your heart, go for it. on one hand it really works to his advantage to have as many join the race as possible. >> yeah. a big field who actually stays in it through the voting helps donald trump. in 2016, he only got about 45% of the republican vote, but he won the nomination because of the winner take all system. you have to get the most votes in these states to get all the delegates. if he can get a big field that stays in it for far too long, it would advantage him or frankly anyone who carries a strong base but it's not a majority of th

but desantis has problems too.not like he is not wacky, he is banning books and arresting people on bogus charges who tried to vote, who have fallen apart. all kinds of things that he has done, they will come front and center. he is an extreme guy. joe biden is not an extreme guy, he is a middle of the road guy who won because he is middle of the road. if they nominate either trump or desantis, i still think that the democrats are in a commanding position if they stick to their knitting at the kitchen table stuff. doing something about prescription drugs, continuing to bang away on the infrastructure victories and working on gun safety and the things that they've gotten done. i think -- presidential politics is going to come into play here because we have a president at the top of the ticket every election. >> mark, you've reported on ron desantis and his likability, which is actually a real factor when it comes to electing a president. but there is also his legislative record. we have covered it all on the show, w

undesirable to desantis and his allies.learned desantis has rejected advanced -- and 60 schools across the country, but apparently in the state of florida, that curriculum is against the law. the conservative national review reported excitedly today on a letter that desantis sent to the college board that says quote, the content of this course is inexplicably contrary to florida law and significantly lacks educational value. and it invites the college board to quote, come back to the table with lawful, historically accurate content. all of this is bad enough for the people of florida, but it may concern all of us outside of florida if desantis really is on his way to a presidential run. joining us now is the end of the columbia journalism school and is stafford or at the new yorker. dean cobb, thank you so much for being with us. i think that there is no better person to put into perspective how damaging this agenda is, in terms of education, and higher education. can you give us your thoughts on the moves that the desantis

desantis's team is not just stopping at black history.e seems to be telling the governor they are announcing a curve in diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts. this is a priority for them. why do you think that is, and what do you say to some liberals who say deede i f efforts have gone too far? >> a lot of liberals are running scared. in the broader sense, since the summer of 2020, we've had tremendous backtracking, backpedalling. the same kind of backpedalling the doctor king so eloquently described in his last book, we are to paraphrase, many white people found that they had more in common with the segregationists than the black people. as we are on this issue. i think the danger with desantis is that he is testing all of the waters for a presidential run where he can galvanize confederacy to make an argument, as he has in setting up an alternative cdc, because the current when we have of scientists are all liberal conspiracists. or new college, where he is taken over a university in the florida system, and changed the mission of tha

this image of desantis basically became viral.t he does best, and ron desantis on its own. maybe that's a bit unfair. this is a little bit of what people are getting out there. >> i was in tallahassee for his inauguration, and it was striking because he did do soms of the sort of tlc-type stuff for donors there. you would have thought he hung the moon because he finally gave them some love, which shows you how starved they are for it and how little desantis has done. we know what he can do well for his base. you touched on that in the intro. that's his forte. we don't know what other muscles he has. it's going to take a different skill set to win a primary where you're competing within your own party and taking on your own party rather than saf rajjing the left and the media. if he can get through a primary, does he have the skill set to run in a general election where you're dealing with voters in states very different from florida. >> i have one word -- iowa. how does this work when he's on the campaign trail and he's got to int

and desantis is playing into that because it's convenient for his 2024 run.'t think people should be mistaken. this is not something he invented yesterday. it's been going on for some time. >> i totally agree with that and it's a useful enough instrument for him right now in florida. i'm not sure how convenient it is going to turn out to be in a 2024 context. once you get outside a florida primary electorate, outside the bubble of fox news universe that ron desantis typically lives in, this plays differently with an audience of parents who want their kids exposed to a lot of different ideas and don't necessarily take to the idea of state censorship. i think the folks who campaign against wokism are most effective when they depict the left and cultural elites as trying to control what your kid has access to and look what ron desantis is doing right now. it's exactly that. >> i think that's exactly it. i think this has less to do with the substance and it has much more to do with the theatre. and the theatre here is what really drives base activists on this, pa

they are reducing mortality. >> that was florida governor, ron desantis.st term. touting the importance of vaccines. flash forward this month, he begins his second term, and desantis has become the poster child for covid denialism. riding that pony, all the way to the white house. >> almost every study, now, has said with these new boosters, you are more likely to get infected with the bivalent booster. >> shortly after pushing that unfounded claim, he announced his plan to, permanently, ban mask mandates. covid-19 vaccine mandates in schools, and, covid-19 vaccine requirements for employment. last week, he got the florida supreme court to panel a grand jury to investigate any, quote, wrongdoing, with respect to the covid-19 vaccines. >> the grand jury investigation is so broad, they, basically, want to harass anybody who had anything to do with the development, design, testing, and manufacturing, of covid vaccines. joining me now, doctor kavita patel, clinical physician, senior policy director in the obama administration an msnbc contributor. thank you fo

desantis has been governor since 2019. he was reelected in november after beating incumbent, charlie -- who is a former florida governor and u.s. congressmen. >> taking the oath of office as the 46th governor of florida, rhonda sanchez, and first lady, casey desantis. mason and maybe desantis. administered by chief justice, carlos movies. please repeat after me, iran desantis. >> iran desantis. >> decently swear. >> that i will support, protect, defend. >> that i will support, protecting, defend -- >> the constitution and governments. of the united states and of the state of florida. >> but i actually qualified to hold office. >> that i'm julie qualified to hold office. >> under the constitution of the. stayed >> under the constitution of the states. >> and that i will violent faithfully perform -- >> that i will well and faithfully perform. >> the duties of governance. >> in which i am now about to enter. >> of which i'm now about to enter. >> stop me. godzilla >> me god. >> thank you. >> [applause] mr. chief justice, mem

what's your reaction when you hear governor desantis say that this class indoctrinates students?have said i'm saddened and appalled as a native floridian, but i'm concerned as a parent, because we have governor desantis who believes that he was elected to be a king, and not the governor. this is politics inside our 101 classrooms. these are the best and brightest students who will take this class would have an opportunity to explore advanced placement of african american history in the same vein that we explore italian history or japanese history, or ap music theory. these are the classes that are already offered and to politicize african american history is shameful of this governor. we should do better because our kids deserve better. geoff: the governor says that because this course includes the study of queer theory, because it talks about political movements that advocated for abolishing prisons, because it focuses on the reparations, meant that all of that, in his view, is political, and that it shouldn't be pushed on students. can a course like this be taught without inclu

that's desantis's niche. in this, which he's raring to do, he misses the campaign trail. i certainly don't think it's a done deal like alyssa said that it's going to be ron desantis. plus, if you look at history, very rarely if ever at this point in an election has the front runner in a primary ended up being the person that gets it. ask, you know, fred thompson from 2008 or -- >> i remember fred thompson was supposedly the savior. >> and kotdscott walker, same t. >> all of this talk about how ron desantis is going to potentially defeat donald trump in a primary and then have a better shot at winning a general election, how do you do that reasonably by going to his right on every issue and then expecting voters in a general election to just accept the fact that you're trying to ban african american studies in the state of florida, right? that's weird stuff that most people would reject including a lot of white suburban voters, certainly in the district i represent. >> that's a challenge, by the way. there's a

they know desantis is polls. they know desantis is likely come out ahead.antis , you know, the desantis, you know, the anti—trump republicans are still very powerful, very loud . but if very powerful, very loud. but if you put anybody else that race, which is reality, it's going to be just desantis taking on trump. trump is the republican party still loves him. they are not the mainstream media. and i think the more he gets out there , if he can stay on message and stop griping about 2020 and how he's secretly won, the more he's going to consolidate that yet because going be because there's going to be a massive field, isn't there? there's going be a huge field of contenders. certainly not going to desantis versus. trump. to be desantis versus. trump. the noted at the megan the thing i noted at the megan is was , you know, he is trump was, you know, he pretty much stayed on message . pretty much stayed on message. we sort of seen a new type of campaigner or. we sort of seen a new type of campaigner or . was this just campaigner or. was this just a one off?

governor desantis wants to outlaw all covid mandates. >> deis tis is be desantis is the best governorals in california watching us. they think we're crazy. they think california is a paradise and florida is a mess. the whole world should copy everything desantis does. elizabeth: to what mark just said. what desantis is doing too as well, ford, he is saying, listen california governor newsom you're totally wrong financially penalizing doctors for so-called pandemic misinformation. florida he is pushing for a proposal to protect doctors freedom of speech, ford. >> look, california is everything that is wrong with today's democrat party from progressive policy to woke ideology and i'm a floridian. i will tell you that governor desantis has turned florida into a beacon of freedom and epicenter of the gop. frankly what he has done is a model going forward for the rest of the nation. elizabeth: got it, ford o'connell, mark simone. thanks for joining us tonight. good to see you both. >> thanks, liz. elizabeth: the media is now criticizing transportation secretary pete buttigieg very hard. we

desantis wants black history, black education.basically was i don't want to talk about issues like queer theory and intersexuality and abolishing prisons when t truth is that we just learned two years ago that the african american community, more than anyone, wants more cops. they want more consequences. and we're indoctrination our kids to say, while blacks are against prisons. no, they're not. he's taking on this issue as opposed to other issues, harold, because he's in the thing of it. he got in the thing of it because of disney, what they said about the don't say gay law, because we saw what happened in virginia. just today, i forget what new governor who has the money following students in her state, they just signed into law -- >> dana: iowa. >> jeanine: yeah, iowa. it's a big issue. he's primed for it. >> greg: this is like when we covered the story about the american doll book. it's like what is this doing in this book about the american doll when you go to that story? there are there chapters are be with your own binary t

just to go back to desantis, i think we will watch that play out right now with desantis.tine of south dakota, trying to run to the right of him on this issue, saying to stop hiding against your 15-week abortion ban. come out and say you are for a national ban on abortion. this seems like a thing that is really going to complicate their primary, and getting them a viable candidate going into the general. >> they are stuck, and they're doing it with a lot of things. the base has gotten so far right, and so trumpy that everything is a loyalty test. it's a question of who is the most far-right on abortion? >> who's the most far-right on trans children, who's the most far-right on any of these things? it is a race to the bottom. i think that they seem not to be able to understand that voters in swing states just don't like this. what you are seeing is the reporting i did hear, the people that i talked to but, you have women that are not even pro-choice, peter having missed her carriages and can't get the medicine. they didn't realize that the end of roe, they would not be able

i know desantis did not sleep much.e morning the next day. by all accounts, desantis performed very well, which is why the media didn't talk about it much. we're going to jump in because desantis has just come out to give his acceptance speech. we'll watch a little bit of this. well, thank you so much. desantis wins by 20 points. he blows away charlie crist. the margin, the scope of the victory. that state is looking redder than perhaps ever. this was eye popping and don't you know that every money man on the republican side is looking at him and thinking, oh. yeah, watch your back, mickey. ready for another? who can forget pop quiz. billionaire elon musk purchased what social media platform in 2022. is it a insta graham, b, facebook or c, twitter? the answer when we return. hi, i'm katie, i've lost 110 pounds on golo in just over a year. i was a diet soda addict, and i needed to have a diet soda every morning as my eye-opener. with the release, the cravings are gone. golo worked for me when i thought nothing would work

>> governor desantis' opinion is very important. i think early on, ronna mcdaniel did something really smart. she got out there very fast. she got 107 endorsements on paper. i think she's going to be north of 110 on the first ballot. that would be a rough estimate. you only need 85. and you know, harmeet did a nice job. in the end, the committee will stick with ronna mcdaniel. there's a lot of reasons for that. being chairman of the rnc, it's about winning and losing. there's no doubt. as doug knows, it's about identifying voters, gathering data, absentee ballot chase program. there's so many things that go on. being chairman of the rnc, i used to say all the people that see me on tv, that's what the chairman did. being chairman of the rnc and the dnc is being a charge of a lot of boring things that matter. to her credit, ronna has done a nice job on all the boring things that matter. >> trace: it's interesting, doug. you've been in this industry a long time. i was watching governor desantis. he was talking about harmeet dhillon. th

imagine ron desantis debating president biden. it will be a bloodbath. the second thing people should be thinking about, the democrat alternatives, amy klobuchar, gavin newsom, are sitting on the bench, can't get anything going, can't make a decision whether they want to run. after the midterms, we don't want to insult the president. he did such a good job. he did a good job in the midterms. there were problems in the midterm starting with abortion. that has nothing on president biden. my view is this is good news for 2024 and republicans taking back the white house. stuart: i calmed down and so did you. liz: i've got to go pack. stuart: thanks a lot. back to the markets. we are in the green, one hundred one points, the nasdaq is up 70. s&p is up 20. i call that fairly solid. the market watcher of the moment, welcome back to the show. i'm not hearing much talk of a deep recession. the consumer seems to be okay, reasonably so. why not get into stocks? >> great question. a pleasure to be with you. everything was fairly priced until the fed showed up last y

the notion that he attacks desantis, he is not loyal to me. >> but he says desantis to a potential threatum he has. we will see. >> we heard from the atlantic, and it said while many republicans did want to see trump go away, they don't have a plan. lots of republicans want donald trump to disappear from politics, and they are faced with the prospect of another election cycle dominated by donald trump and uncertain he could be beaten in the primaries, and many republicans are quietly rooting for something to make him go away, and they would strongly prefer not to make it happen themselves. is hope a strategy? >> no, and only one strategy to beat donald trump and that's to beat his ass. that's the only way to get this to go away. he may have legal troubled and that's it, there is no other strategy than to run and get more votes and win. there will be things that complicate that. you have trump and desantis who are in a different universe in terms of their level of national support, and everybody else is fighting for 1% of the rest oxygen. if desantis wants to make a go of this, the reservo

desantis, madison, macie desantis administered by chief justice carlos moonies. [applause] >> please repeat after me. i, ron desantis, do solemnly swear, that i will support, protect and defend, the constitution and government of the united states and of the state of florida. that i'm duly qualified to hold office under the constitution of the state, and that i will will and faithfully perform the duties of governor on which i am now about to enter. so help me god. >> so help me god. thank you. [applause] [applause] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [applause] >> mr. chief justice, members of the cabinet, and fellow citizens. from the space coast to the suncoast, from st. johns to st. lucie, from the streets of hialeah to the speedways of daytona, from the okeechobee all the way up to micanopy. freedom lives here, in our great sunshine state of florida. [applause] it lives in the courage of those who patrol the streets and keep our communities safe, it lives in the industry of those who work long hours to earn a livin

so when you look at the polling as it is right now, when it's he-to-head, desantis and trump, desantis comes really close. when you put the other candidates in, trump starts to run away with it. so i think the republican party has to decide if they're going to get the discipline that we see on the democrats, which is often to say there's only a couple of candidates, there's not 17 on the stage like we saw in 2016. >> neil: maybe the most audacious sort of who cares whether donald trump finds it disloyal or not comes from mike pompeo. a bite i want to share with you, tom bevan, what you make of it. this is from the former secretary of state. >> ron desantis, if he runs, to paraphrase, it would be a little disloyal. he's done a lot for him. do you feel that way? >> oh, goodness, no. i was incredibly loyal to america and the work that president trump wanted done. the american people will decide who the next republican nominee is. nobody that throws their hat in the ring has the responsibility to go out, make their case to the people of iowa, new hampshire and south carolina and let the am

>> well, desantis is a name and an image.erally looking for an alternative to donald trump. somebody who doesn't have donald trump's baggage, but who has donald trump's position. maybe some of his personality. well, that is desantis. you know, he's been elected florida governor twice. he's never on doggone the kind of national scrutiny that a presidential front runner has. so, i think he may be a little surprised once he gets into it. >> i want to ask you on the democratic side here. what does your crystal ball say about president biden? will he or won't he run for reelection. if he, does do you see any democrat coming in to challenge him in the primaries? >> you have to listen to what he is saying. he clearly has indicated that he's going to run. you can see why. he's had a very successful two years on the hole. yes, there are problems. on the whole, he has had a very good and productive presidency. and that puts him in a good position, not just for the nomination, despite what the polls say today, he had a good position to

can run desantis take a hit from donald trump?ent from donald trump? we don't know. we'll see. >> i appreciate you said later fire and hold yourself back from what you really wanted to say there. i want to ask you about the rnc leadership elections. there was this push, and we always talked about new leadership. that falls right. i want you make of it. i want if this institution is even relevant beyond funding anymore. >> is that coming to me, felicia? >> yeah, so you, david. >> like, i wish our colleague michael steele was on. because i would say it doesn't have a lot of campaign impact. but it does have infrastructure impact. the rnc does. what i think was most telling coming out of the reelection of running mcdaniel's mcdaniel really is trump's ally and trump's pick. ron desantis came into the game late, about 40 hours out, and gave his imprint to her a fierce competitor, and lost that race, showing that at least within the rnc, it's still a trump on macdonnell loyalty, and it's not on turon desantis's touch, if you will. >> yo

the video was a little more charismatic than desantis but as you said, desantis is actually doing it that is the scary part. >> john? >> the nonsense we're playing into to some extent. trump is trying to out do ron desantis and this is all about play the base and not about serious policy or helping kids or uniting the nation. here is what really pisses me off. we have been convinced we're deeply divided along party lines on things like education yes studies show there is a massive perception gap. we are not as divided. most conservatives are not nearly as far right as democrats think they are. >> that is true of every issue. >> yeah but particularly around american history and our education. that really matters because we are a nation that depends upon finding common ground on ideas and our national story. the good, the bad, and the ugly. teach the holistic picture. our country uniquely depend on that. when the cultural warriors inflame and artificially divide it makes us feel more divided than we are. >> if trump voters aren't afraid of something, and a bunch of things, then why are

ron desantis, ban baldwin? we'll talk. get into it. facing increased scrutiny at a senate hearing later this month. the committee's goal promote competition and protect consumers in the live entertainment market. serious issues came to light last year during a taylor swift ticket meltdown. ticket sales meltdown, that infuriated hundreds of thousands of fans. jason carroll is here with a preview. you don't want to tick off swifties or the beyhive or who else? >> let's get to this. this is going to be a public shaming. no doubt about it. get ready for that. it isn't the first time ticketmaster has been taken to task for its business practices, and this time, though, so many people have spoken out about it, they're asking congress to get in there and do something about it. ♪ shake it off, shake it off ♪ >> reporter: scores of taylor swift fans still haven't shaken off the bitter feeling being shut out of the pop star's upcoming tour this march. >> ticketmasters takes the $490 out of my account, but -- it, like, crashed. >> reporter: all t

that is the mantle the governor desantis has picked up more than a century later.nced placement course on african american studies because he said he believed it pushed an agenda and that it lacked educational value. but today civil rights attorney ben crump alongside a group of florida students threatened to file a lawsuit over the desantis administration's decision to reject that ap course on african american studies. >> no one rhonda fandos or anybody can exterminate black history in the classrooms across america. what this really is about is saying you cannot exterminate us. you cannot exterminate our culture. and you can never exterminate the value of our children to this world. >> joining us now is frederik ingraham, secretary treasurer of the american federation of teachers and former president of the florida education association. he also spoke at that press conference today. mr. ingraham at, thank you for being here tonight. let me start with what you have heard from teachers who are in the classrooms trying to navigate this treacherous terrain. >> sure, l

i'm not going to tell you his name, but his initials are ron desantis. back in a second. music) - [announcer] what if there is a hearing aid that could keep up with you? this is jabra enhance select. it's a smart hearing solution that makes hearing aids more convenient and less expensive. it connects with your phone so you can stream calls and music. with jabra enhance select, better hearing doesn't have to start in a doctor's office. it starts with a free online hearing test you can take almost anywhere, so you can get your hearing aids custom programmed for you and delivered in days. from there, you can fine tune your settings with your remote audiology team seven days a week, so your hearing aids work when it matters most. take it from more than 95% of our customers who report hearing better with their friends, family, and colleagues. and jabra enhance select hearing aids cost thousands less than you'd expect, so hearing well is easier than ever before. try it risk-free for 100 days. visit jabraenhance.com >>> two days ago, florida governor ron desantis wished america

vanity fair kicking off the new year with a hit piece on governor desantis.sive guide to why rhonda santos's presidency would be as terrifying as a trump one. joe concha, why are they going after desantis on the first trading day of 2023? >> florida governor ron desantis is the biggest threat to the democratic party in regards to them holding the white house in 2024. the midterms were underwhelming for the republican party. they barely took back the house, they were supposed to take back of the senate. the one big winner other about the inside was desantis, won florida by 20 points, won in a deep blue county like miami-dade, palm beach. what we are seeing, these think pieces which is an oxymoron in this case arguing desantis is more dangerous than donald trump and on par with hitler and stalin. it is 31 flavors of stupid but when you look at the numbers desantis is the most popular governor in the country and a good chunk of democrats and independents reelected him in his state. these pieces resonate with far left leaders, objective people look at desantis's

that was straight out of the ron desantis's playbook.esident trump has been paid attention. on his first go, around he talked about when he was running for president the first out, school choice. which was sort of, conservative tenet. no longer. >> look, i think it's very telling -- this is an all opposition strategy, i'm glad you pointed out but actually pulls well, pointed it out. -- local governor camels of iowa just passed, controversial, certainly among democrats but something that is substantive policy wise, and you can use it as a differentiator and maybe even pick up some independents and centrists. this is all playing to the base. it's all about demonization. now some folks on the left won't maybe be aware of why it resonate so much. you know, why -- there's a certain element of the activist class that feeds into these narratives and might well be giving a conch retribution to the rnc every day. but it's largely strongman. it has nothing to do with education. it just -- >> but why does it resonate so much? >> well, because i thi

last spring, ron desantis signed into law a bill that requires schools to publish lists of all school library content and requires a specialist to select all reading materials based on vague state academic standards. basically if governor desantis believes a book will indoctrinate florida youth, schools can be slapped with a felony if it's on a school library shelf. that law is in effect now which is why bookshelves look like this. books papered over with stick key -- stickey notes saying closed by order of the governor. this week, governor desantis rejected an advanced placement course on african american studies because he said he believed it pushed an agenda. but today attorney ben crump threatened to file a lawsuit over the administration's decision to reject that ap course on african american studies. >> desantis or anybody exterminate black history in the classrooms across america? >> no. >> yeah, what this really is about is saying, you cannot exterminate us. you cannot exterminate our culture. and you can never experiment -- exterminate the value of our children to this world.