and grant was elected to play desdemona, which he did to great success. when the famous actors, the great western, came to entertain the troops and took the part of desdemona, the audience booed and put grant back up on the stage to play desdemona. susan swain: following up on the question about her views about women, gary robinson is asking susan b. anthony, pardoned by president grant -- did julia have any influence on this decision? pamela sanfilippo: don't know if she had influence on that decision. she did become friends with susan b. anthony and although she wasn't working for suffrage for women, she did refuse to sign an anti-suffrage petition that was going around, which was duly noted. and she had certainly learned during the war years when she was kind of forced to take on roles that typically the husband would have assumed, she learned how to become independent and felt that women should have some role in decision-making. susan swain: now, we're going to visit another of the grant sites and we'll ask you to set the stage for this one. it's call