going through training as well as particularly departments like dcyf where there's money being desimilar nated to -- disseminated to different areas. one of the way we can combat bias is educating ourselves. i don't need to educate you. you know about bias. you've gone through the training, but one thing you can consider as director of dhr is we can move it. we go through ethics training, sexual harassment training. that way people can't say, i didn't know. also, while we're going through these trainings, that we're capturing the data. because as of right now, we just don't know. that concerns me. it concerns me with some of the anecdotal stories that were shared in gao's hearing, the hearing supervisor kim presided over. there were concerns that came out. our job, and the reason we're sitting here as a full body, is to find a way to legislate if there's a way to correct this. now, we've heard at the beginning of the hearing about the executive directive. now, that came before the gao hearing, so perhaps people were unaware of what mayor breed put out, but to members of the public, i'm happy t