desirae tim, president and ceo of innovation, ohio. great to see you both., the president is not selling this well. i hear you say that. often it's messaging. now it's the facts. what he has done is not cutting the price. the two oil reserve releases, not helping. 18 cents, 90 days of that and you have to bring it back and it feels like a tax on people right before an election? not going to help. what do you say? >> i think president biden is trying to do whatever he can to ease the pain at the pump. look, we know that the corporate gas tax break is not popular amongst both democrats and republicans but for very different reasons. democrats are concerned that these oil companies would pass the break down to the consumers and consumers are saying they don't know if they'll feel it anyway and why it's not popular. this is about putin's war and the impact of that. we have five american refineries that aren't producing oil right now. putin's war is causing catastrophe on american households every single day. >> harris: officials like the fed say that's not true.