it's a deeply moving, film about desmond dawz, a conscientious objector who just won't pick up a gun but is willing to serve his country. what was it about this story that appealed to you? >> well, it's so inspiring, and it's about time someone told a y. doesn't wear spandex. >> stephen: you did that once before with jesus. >> that's true. >> stephen: no spandex on jesus. >> i think i did it on stage. >> stephen: "jesus christ superstar?" >> that was it. >> stephen: i don't know if there's any spanned oakes that. there are a lot of high notes. he's a real superstar. >> he's a real guy who really did, you know, amazing things. he was an ordinary man doing extremely difficult circumstances. and that's in the hell of war, in combat. and i don't see it as a war film although of although it's kind of graphic because i want to show -- >> it's very graphic. >> i want to show what our veterans go through from back in the day to right today. they go through a lot for us and they take a beating and i want the audience to empathize with that and put the audience in the fox hole. but it's a man