talking about truth and reconciliation, i talked the archbishop desmond tutu. bringing people together and asking them to confess and then give me something reconciliation comes. >> pentecost could result in a moment like that in our communities. >> it would be tremendous. i did not know this until i read it the other day, he sounded among the people toise n shout vsp, vsp which means very special people. and he says we are very special people because god loves us. and we are made in the image of god. and that is not something we earn. it is a gift of god. so he wanted everyone to know that. and not just his own people but all people which you've been saying. >> on the cost we could say vsp is very spirited people. >> we are going to come back to this spirited conversation. and thank you for being with us. please join us with carol and jim hopkins. carol estes at elmhurst, and jim hopkins at lakeshore baptist. >>> welcome back to mosaic. this is pentecost and we have been talking about the power of the spirit breaking down barriers and uniting us and bringing u