i got to begin with desouza and i have to apologize to eric holder.ught that was political harassment. she's about ready -- >> here's the lifeline. >> she's represented by a fantastic criminal defense attorney and he said look take the plea and we'll argue. they are going to say to the judge to please not give him any jail time. >> the sentencing ramifications are pretty much lower than that. they can get no jail time. i agree. >> that's nice when you guys agree. >> not too often. >> sterling, clippers, nba now charging again that he's a foul fellow and a racist s.o.b. i don't think that was their exact language. >> i don't think so eat sneerp fact of the matter is there's nothing new in the direction in which this thing is headed except a lot more court time. >> he's come forward, sterling said i'm lawyered up. with an antitrust lawyer. >> will this go on forever and ever? yes. there's so much money involved in this. and yet the charges there are. okay. it doesn't mean something to somebody like sterling because all the lawyers will use the money and