the american jewish community is more universallistic, more a simmistic, detriballized. israel and maybe ari will contradict this, israel seems to be more tribal, more religious, more middle eastern in a kind of way in the negative senses. and that can't hold forever. i mean are working hard to do that. i think the prime minister of israel again to go back to this idea that netanyahu was kind av a leftist in his own party, i think he understands some of these dilemmas, his party is to the-- he might have stayed in the same place but the party is gone by the support of the american jewish community is a national security interest of the communitied-- of israel. nice thing to have. i totally agree with both you. totally agree. the importance of israel, when you go to the core is that it was an attempt to save nonorthodox jewish civilizations. first to save the jewish people physically from what happened 40, 50 years later. but beyond to that save nonorthodox jewish civilization, so the need for progressive jewish americans and progressive israelis to maintain that is-- for