friend sarah carter fox news contributor to the bordered to the shipping containers and governor deucey is saying i'm not going to remove them. >> right now the state of arizona is actually in a battle with the federal government. governor deucey is actually trying to sue the federal government because the federal government is trying to force the state of arizona to actually take down the train cars these cargo containers. >> right. >> to create a border in the gap. >> correct. that's why it makes a big difference if people don't understand it is so we have the immigration problem obviously where anybody can come across claim asylum get release. then you got the got way. >> right. >> which this area leads the entire area in got aways. nowhere more than this part of arizona. then you've got the far costs exso it's three stages of a war. so if you just take those down, then obviously that's where people are going to control across. that's where they're going to turn themselves in. that's where agents will be pre-occupied. when they remove themselves from that area having to do transport

peter deucey. >> karen with helps low income families in maine. thanks for joining us. i had the opportunity to speak with you a couple weeks ago cara. you were on the ground trying to help people ahead of what could be a really cold winter. they're feeling the effects of high sky prices. tell us what you're hearing from people as we approach winter? >> sure. thank you sandra. unfortunately we continue to hear a lot of concerns with increased fuel costs, heating oil at $5 a gallon which is a lot higher than historically, the benefit system used to provide a tank and a half, now it's a half tank because of the cost. as i told you last week maine winter average household knees four tanks so half a tank to four tanks is serious and people are scared. they're very worried. >> that's real stuff and real challenges they're facing as these are the estimates that folks will face as prices continuing to up and people have to turn the heat on. natural gas costs estimated going up $931 difference. heating oil prices expected to be up 27 percent. that equates to about $2400 for fol

remember these are the very voters that picked doug deucey by 14 points.ema, but also picked hobbs to be secretary of state. they picked a republican to be attorney general. they picked a democratic to be superindent of public instruction so we may be looking at voters picking republican on one hand, democrats on the other. i want to let everybody hear from the attorney general last night on 60 minutes, this is an individual who ran for the u.s. senate but came increasingly under scrutiny by republicaning to investigate 2020. i want to let you hear his new public comments talking about voter fraud allegations. take a listen. >> we as prosecutors deal in facts and evidence and i'm not like the clowns that throw stuff against the wall and see what sticks. i think there are a lot of clowns out there that saw what they wanted to see. simon and garfunkel line, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. there's a lot of that going on. >> reporter: that's a republican attorney general one week before the election essentially calling those includin