i think the united states previously devcon 2 downgraded to devcon 3 but forces in european command,t are watching very, very carefully because we have forces stationed in those locations potentially a threat within strike of artillery of russia. >> carley: health seriously is washington taking this escalation? >> i think washington is in general taking the escalation very seriously. there is a war in europe again. so i am concerned about a response that seems to a certain extent rhetorically from the president. and i think those things actually matter. those things actually count. and let's face it, we don't want this to escalate to article 5 circumstances for the united states of america or numbers of states in europe. we don't want to be in that position and to keep yourself out of that position is to make sure to stay away from the door as much as possible. >> carley: speaking of, china is watching closely what is going on between russia and ukraine right now. how do you think they would assess the western response to it? >> i think they would assess the ukrainian response as rob

this is enough for government to be on devcon one. you cannot go to devcon one to prevent people to donate from catching the cold. what are we going to do when this turns into a serious virus? more so than delta or omicron. the government has had to say you wear a mask. we were all wearing gloves and wash encounters and washing food. these things have gone way because they should go away. mask ring should away as well as well as on federal facilities and on airplanes. it's not dire. stop wearing masks. >> emily: a quick follow-up. how do you see this laying out on either side as we approach returns? >> ari: one of the reasons that the public is exhausted with us and to the degree i saw this morning, democrats are seen as mask fundamentalists. it reminds people that one party went too far, had bad solutions, and review to do sensible things. the press plays a role. they have hounded republican governors when they stopped complying with mandates. when the democrats do it, the press gives him news coverage. >> harris: it's true. >> ari:

three _ richard nixon and moved to devcon three and — richard nixon and moved to devcon three.remain calm, keep it simple and speak— best to remain calm, keep it simple and speak out with a soft voice by carrying _ and speak out with a soft voice by carrying a — and speak out with a soft voice by carrying a big stick i think biden is getting — carrying a big stick i think biden is getting quite high marks. wonder is getting quite high marks. i wonder if that is something to do with the way he was trained as a senator during the 80s and the height of the cold war. of course egos an awful long way back, joe biden. can i talk about fuel? 0bviously, biden. can i talk about fuel? obviously, there is a real concern for the country, you are in italy. they depend. like i remember when i lived in italy and there was a problem with gas coming across ukraine it because you real problems for italy. is there a security risk now that putin closes the taps? what now that putin closes the taps? what he could do essentially _ now that putin closes the taps? what he could do essentially invoke t

we don't want to get to devcon one straight but without more stronger sanctions, borisjohnson in thell seem quite weak on what they want so far. you've been s-ueakin what they want so far. you've been speaking to — what they want so far. you've been speaking to a _ what they want so far. you've been speaking to a number— what they want so far. you've been speaking to a number of— what they want so far. you've been l speaking to a number of conservative mps who were of the view that the sanctions did not go far enough. you could ut sanctions did not go far enough. you could put the — sanctions did not go far enough. you could put the whole house and that statement pretty publicly, actually. how much it was to go much further and many— how much it was to go much further and many pointing out that three individuals who have been targeted on the _ individuals who have been targeted on the uk — individuals who have been targeted on the uk sanctions by the us in 2018— on the uk sanctions by the us in 2018 and — on the uk sanctions by the us in 2018 and so, one described isjust playing _ 20

the american president going to another notch of the devcon level of readiness. not publish its levels. america has five. they announced it. that is a threat of use of nuclear weapons and not against ukraine come against the united states primarily. -- against ukraine, against the united states primarily. the threat is there. it seems remote. putin does not have that many arguments. he does not have that many aces up his sleeve, especially with his war chest. the returns of the central bank, most of them have been frozen. he may revert to nuclear weapons as a demonstration. exploding a nuclear device over the atlantic in a way that will not make any casualties which demonstrate that russia is dead serious and ready to use bombs. kailey: it is a frightening proposition for sure. coming up, finland planning to send ukraine 25 hundred assault rifles and antitank weapons. we will talk to finland's ambassador to the u.s. next. this is bloomberg. bloomberg. ♪ guy: it looks like the call between president biden and allies is starting to take place. you have justin trude

when he starts going raising his readiness level on his weapons, bouts -- our devcon system is one throughgenerally we are for. the only time we've gone to three was during 9/11. we went to number two during the cuban missile crisis. he's done something like that which is rational, we ought to respond in kind to his response. we have to pick up the phone and hotline and in the pentagon and call up his russian generals and say you know we are going from florida standard three. just tell them we are raising the stakes. you want to go all in, we will go all. we have a lot more nukes with our allies than you have. his behavior is beginning to get erratic. by the way i want to go back just for a second to something you said earlier, in 2019 item chance to meet zelenskyy with vice president fence when we went for a world war ii celebration. i came out saying this is the kind of guy you want to beer with. when we back and told president trump this is a good guy. you could see that back then. he's proven that. he's a wartime commander. that's what president biden needs to be right now. whether he