and the they tout devin nunez was off of his rocker, it is all coming to fruition. >> devin nunez, everyonehought he was meeting bienterarly and meeting with skwlensigence officials in the white house grounds and the press made fun of him. basically all. concerns that he hinted at over a year ago came to fruition. and as tom pointed out. even the democrats are having to acknowledge that yes indeed, they did insert a spy into the political campaign. it is unprecedented. we heard of this kind much thing in the '60 and '70s. it is not as bad and extensive as this. these people are going and actively punishing people, political opponents which is shocking. >> jeanine: it is it shocking and the amazing part of it, greg, look, the republicans are looking at people whose names we only heard of. bill pres staff. he was director. and he helped to change the name from gross negligence to extremely careless and then michael stien back and colon. and these are people in the upper echlon of the f.b.i. and calm would before congress and you think they will take the fifth or tell us what happened? >> so f

we start with devin nunez and a california congressman. you say that you will move to hold the attorney general of the united states in contempt of congress. explain how they are slow walking and using redakzs in the name of national court and how they are unwilling to answer congress' subpeona and how that is the constitutional role of congress. >> thank you, sean. you don't have enough time inferred to get to all of the stone walling that the doy and fbi did in our investigation. maybe pick a few in the top. last week after six weeks, we discovered that first time american people know that james comey testified before congress that he was not, that the fbi agents that intruped flynn was not lying. took six weeks to get rid of those redackition. and fusion gps and documents pertinent with that fight. and the fact that we were not able to figure out they knew that the clinton campaign and democratic national community paid for the dirt. >> sean: how long. we didn't find out for a year later. >> we believe they knew it from the beginning. >

in this case, the material devin nunez will embarrass the department of justice and fbi and likely toepresent misconduct and if not breaking of the law. >> reporter: the republican chairman said the dialogue will continue next week. they welcome an opportunity to work on a resolution. simpson did not respond to fox's question on the source. mar harthank you. representative peter king who sits on the intelligence commission. and thank you for joining us tonight. very strong piece by kim, suggesting that potentially an outfit in the trump campaign, do you think that is the case? >> we have reason that there could have been an fbi spy in the campaign and someone affiliated with the fbi and dealing with the people in the trump campaign. and that's one of the things we are trying to pin down and make sure it is the case. if it is, it raises serious questions. there is no reason why the investigation began in the first place and why the fisa was given. who role was it. if he was an fbi operative. and was he put there by the fbi? you have a fbi spying on the presidential campaign and there a

that is why devin nunez is pushing hard for this and trey gowdy are pushing hard for this. about this, you hear the democrats attacking republicans, that is par for the course. the justice department has been undermining the oversight of congress completely over the last year. david: absolutely. >> republican-run justice department attacks devin nunez and his oversight investigations repeatedly. i guarranty you they didn't give him enough information today and still there are documents they're with holding, fascinating yesterday to see the tension between rod rosenstein, a same conference that president trump was at. they were trying to bury all of the antagonism between the two. it was clear it still existed. let me talk about president obama here, whether you want to call him a spy or an informant, cot fbi implanted this person into a presidential campaign without some kind of a approval or at least knowledge by the sitting president who was obama? >> the president was briefed on the dossier. you can bet he was briefed on this operation against the campaign, especially gi

cooking and thought the president had a tinfoil hate and devin nunez off his rocker but it is comingo from yourician. >> everyone thought he was behaving beczarly and meeting with in secure locations and all of the prelsz made fun of him. and what we are seeing today, all of the concerns that he hinted at a year ago, over a year ago came to fruition. and as tom pointed out. even the democrats having to acknowledge yes, they did insert a spy into the political campaign. and i think it is unprecedented. you know, we heard of hence of this kind of things in the '60 and '70s. it was not, i would argue it is not as bad and extensive as. this these people are going, they were actually actively punishing people, political opponents which is shocking. >> jeanine: it is shocking. and the amazing part of it, greg, you have the republicans that are looking at some people whose names we have only heard of. bill pres staff. he was changing the name from gross negligence to extremely careful. and michael stienbac k. and john colog whatever his name is. these are people called before congress. do y

watch here. >> very courageous man, he is courageous, congressman devin nunez.hank you very much, devin for being here. appreciate it. reporter: a courageous man he says of nunez. by the way, trish, rudy giuliani telling fox over the weekend he says robert mueller told him if mueller is able to interview the president by mid-july he could have the probe that at least relates to russia collusion, jim comey, and issues affiliated with that, wrapped up by september 1st. a lot of possibilities and ifs there. we know this timeline has changed. speaking of timelines, 42 minutes from now the president, rod rosenstein, chris wray here at the white house and others. trish? trish: everybody has a lot of questions as do we. thank you very much, blake. i do want to point out we're not revealing identity or suspected identity of this person because that would be perhaps a security concern. so with that in mind i want to go right now to fox news national security strategist and former deputy assistant to president trump, dr. sebastian gorka. and, dr. gorka, before we go down

that the source is at the center of the back-and-forth between housentligence committee chairman devin nunez and the d.o.j. so what was a congressional outcry now has presidential support. devlin, welcome to "the washington post." talking to a source last night, i heard this is a firestorm inside the white house.er onen described it as a tinder box, the fight between the d.o.j..o and., now the president of the united states. at justice tonight, are they on edge devlin: i think they are not on edge but prepared for this to escalate, the possibility of escation, because for a lotf folks in law enforcement, this fight over this source, while an important fight on t merits, is really about a bigger problem and a bigger set of confrontations, really about is rod rosenstein going to stay as deputy attorney general overseeing thisga inveson, is the congress going to turn this fight over the documents into a fight over who gets fired or who quits inside the administration? is theer mue probe going to be allowed to continue? or is there going to be some ortf ultimate confrontation between the white h

traer gowdy and devin nunez, head of the intel community and gowdy over sight.er to the doy and lives at take as the justice department depends every time congress wants to assert the responsibility and authority of oversight. nrosenstein is restraining congress' constitutional duty of oversight and it was not until the threat of impeaching rosenstein did he finally capitulate as classified unredacted information. rosenstein had no basis to object to nunez seeing this because nunez has security clearness to see it. it is a sad day in the department of justice when you have to threaten somebody to with impeachment to get them to do their duty. >> lou: these are not only sad day, but anger. these doy should be flushed out of that corrupt department and that is now. there is no excuse for the acts. can you think of an excuse for the way rosenstein acted and jeff sessions and in the case of sessions not acted? the entire group of people demoted and resigned. it is awful. when people we trust to uphold the law and end pup breaking the law. and obstructing congress. i

we are back with this exclusive interview with devin nunez.ou said this was the mother of all leaks. what were you referring to. >> there were two mainstream media outlets on friday night that had a lot of details, if those are correct. we don't have the documents. we don't know if there is an informant. we haven't asked for the names of any sources. yes, any of that is true. if they ran a spy ring or informant ring and paying people within the campaign if anything is true there is a red line. there isn't an honest person in the country that could believe taxpayer dollars going to fund the ring and operate like this like said in the new york times i think. there was quiet a bit of detail on it. according to them this was done in the spring before the counter intelligence investigation was open. >> the new york times report and the washington post said someone was paid. someone was paid and they were interacting with the trump campaign. you want to call it spying, okay. >> if they paid someone, it's an absolute re red line. there is no possible

congressman, devin nunez.nk you very much for being here. >>> the search continues for two convicted killers who escaped from a south carolina prison. meg oliver has the the story. jail in orangeberg, meg. >> jeff, the brazen escape took less than ten minutes to play out here saturday night. three inmates threw blan kelts -- blankets over barbed wire and took off running towards the woods. cbs news learned the escape happened after an electrical shortage opened cell doors in one section. a few inmates took advantage of the situation and jumped one of the card. kicking punching and blasting his face with pepper spray. a massive manhunt is under way for two of the men. johnson and green. both were in jail charged with separate murders. sunday police recaptured, boltin who was jailed for carjacking. he was arrested about 1 miles north of here with his father who assisted him. both men are behind bars tonight. one deputy told me they're following up on leads where people have spotted the men here, in the local are

instead you have people who are trying to put and she you see that in devin nunez and trump supporters. >> harris: it is okay you do know it. >> conservative media is putting the name out. >> where was that leaked from? >> believe me it is all over. >> where did it leak from that is the other question. sometimes it is leaked for their own benefit. >> this is not coming from the scombrensigence committee. >> you don't know that for sure. >> i tawning to people and they are not talking. the ones who are talking are people on the trump side who want it out and i think you hear this. the attacks on jim comby and pressure on rod rosenstein right now. and that's why rosenstein has allowed congress to look at fisa memos and put out text between the fbi. it is unbelievable. >> kennedy: it must be so wonderful to have the secret and psychic powers you feel like you know better than other people and other people can't make their own decisions. >> if that was the case that would be terrible. i think journalist should ask questions endlessly. but you have to think wait a second. what point am i se

. >> covering devin nunez after the demands from the justice department to get key documents a shortthat describes why the russia investigation started at the fbi after he was given access by the justice department to that document he went to the justice department headquarters and refused to read the documents. in fact, the republican from south carolina who came with him to the facility to read the documents read them instead and staff members did instead and a lot of criticism from people who said perhaps nunez is not searching to learn about all of the nuances of the complex investigation as he tries to doubt why it is going on in the first place. erin, moments he was on fox news and asked about our story. he did not refute the story. he did not refute the story. in fact, he dodged questions about it. he said he did not want to talk about the process and said, quote, these are process games. >> thank you so much for that, manu. >>> when we come back a federal judge, saying he believes bob mueller, the special counsel, is using paul manafort's bank fraud case to just get president

remember that devin nunez had another bombshell that there was no official foreign intelligence through official channels passing to the united states. that was a huge bombshell. he didn't say it didn't pass through unofficial challenge. potentially that information was laundering through the state department and potentially u.s. senate and potentially a human asset in the trump campaign. >> tucker: has this ever happened or alleged before in a presidential campaign? >> not in the united states. i am sure it happened in pie novels and third world country s. but tucker, it is so unbelievable on its face. it is like a thick spy novel yet it happened. if you gave it a to a book agent they might laugh and say it is so absurd and could never happen. i have my suspicions about who the asset is as do many others by the way. it will be explosive when the name comes out. the list of suspects are very short and they are connected in ourigence scombrens community now. and this is it a key point, tucker and connected to political operatives and connected to foreign intelligence assets as well. it i

that meant republican leaders of the house intelligence and oversight committees, devin nunez and trairowdy. the department of justice agreed to brief the bipartisan gang of eight and democrat law maining ares whined and complained about not being briefed about it at all. chris farrell and the judicial watch, chris, it is unclear what they saw and briefed on and witnessed with their own eyes. >> it is it a justice department expectation's management meeting and they said we were forth coming and held meetings and a high percentage belief it was all controlled and contrived, and that it was carefully managed and the justice department and f.b.i. were less than forth coming, and it sorting of allowed all of the parties to say we talked about it, but i doubt seriously whether mr. nunez or mr. gowdy are satisfied with the answers. >> lou: how soon will you find out. >> as soon as they hold a press conference. i would encourage them not to be shy but not violate security restrictions. but they can get in front of the camera and opine about the meeting and be frank of the documents and all so

fox learned on thursday thousands intel chair devin nunez, as well as officials from the fbi and justice department will meet to review some of that sensitive intelligence he's been demanding. senate democratic leader chuck schumer says he thinks that's a partisan move, and nunez's real goal is to try to obstruct the mueller probe. martha? >> the meeting just concluded with president trump. they're veterans of the trump campaign, authors of "let trump be trump." welcome, gentlemen. good to see you tonight. what's the president's feeling about this north korea situation? what did he say to you? >> martha, what he said is simple, if it happens it happens. he's not going to cave to other people's demands. this president has a resolve and a dedication and determination to do what is right, which is to denuclearize north korea, but also to make sure that the united states is protected. if this meeting happens, then it happens. nobody preceding this president has gotten talks to this level of sophistication. this is a man who's the best deal-maker, if this meeting takes place, great. if it doe

now that's not devin nunez saying that. that is lichtblau saying it. >> he has a tough, tough job to do. he needs to clean the place up. i've said this also publicly. we don't see a systemic problem out in the field with field agents or people overseas doing very difficult work. where we do see a problem is in washington, d.c.. now to director ray's credit, you have seen many of the comey-era people excused. that's a good sign. it would be better if he made sure we get this information we need in a timely manner. >> congressman, thank you for joining us tonight. here with reaction, our two esteemed attorney. an author of the new book "trumped up." great to see both of you. judge ellis, you know him well. i know him well from a long time ago when i was a litigator. he's an incredibly talented judge. senior judge on the eastern district. he just laid into the special counsel's office. he said, "i don't see what relationship this indictment has against manafort with anything the special counsel is authorized to investigate. it

congress' job to find out why they didn't do that and congress should be holding hearings and not the devin nunezshow to cover for the administration, but serious hearings to get to the bottom of this issue. what they ought to do is pretend for themselves for a minute that hillary clinton is president and go after donald trump with the kind of gusto that not only would we assume they would go after her with, but that we saw them do. turn this into another benghazi hearing. the interference of foreign influencers in our election is catastrophic and dangerous to our republic. >> we had a commentator on an earlier hour this morning suggesting that what this exposes is the under belly of politics and potentially another campaign might have taken a similar meeting or tried to get the same thing without breaking the law, skirting the law to get as much assistance from foreign governments as possible. do you think this is common, or is this as much of an outlier as the reporting would suggest? >> this is absolutely an outlier. that is a crazy thing to have said. this is not the under belly of politics.

otherwise, what are they telling devin nunez they're not telling the democrats? >> should the democrats have walked out of the meeting when they saw emmitt flood there? >> no. i think it's always important to stay engaged and to be present at the meetings. but let's just take a step back here. there is nothing wrong with the use of confidential informants by law enforcement or counterintelligence units. i'm a former prosecutor. the use of inform fant sinforma necessary. >> you signed a let they are week, congressman, that democrats on the house judiciary committee sent to president trump. i want to read part of it. you wrote, "we write to advise you stop stalling, sop blaming t the investigation for your political troubles and submit to an interview with mueller, the special counsel, rather than casting unfounded accusations against your own justice department or seeking to expose a confidential informant at great risk to his or her safety and international security. we urge you to let the justice department do its work while you do yours." congressman, given the

about the russia investigation reluctantly handed over to house intelligence committee chairman devin nunezhat story for us. nunez threatened rod rosenstein with context and impeachment to get the documents. what happened next? >> reporter: well, jim, for months nunez said the justice department was stonewalling, avoiding his document request because it was hiding. nunez said he was focused on getting one document in particular, an unredacted copy of the one that kicked off the fbi russia investigation. saying it was absolutely essential to his understanding of what happened. but when it came for him to come over to the justice department to review it with his fellow republican congressman trey gowdy, multiple sources now tell us that he didn't actually read it. instead, he left a copy unopened in a foldner front of him. why? we don't know. but it is not the first time he's done this. in the past, he's subpoenaed a number of highly classified materials related to the russia investigation and including those controversial surveillance orders to monitor former trump campaign adviser carter pa

department of justice, if it is possible, to hand over documents to intelligence committee chairman devin nunezy does get the credit for starting this a couple weeks ago with his inquiry into the department of justice. melissa: yeah. what do you think of this? i mean, so the defense that we've heard today from the other side and over the weekend, i'm sure you heard it from the democrats side has been, okay, so the fbi had somebody that they were, you know, was doing work for them anyway, who happened to bump up against people who are connected to the trump campaign, who were already doing things that were very suspicious, so it is no surprise that these two people would bump up against each other? >> okay. so the amount of deflection that has been going on here trying to minimize what is in fact the news, that former fbi heads were spying on a presidential campaign. it is extraordinary. people think, it is not spying, it is just an informant. oh, they just bumped up. this was a source in the fbi and cia. it was directly tasked and going to gather information on the trump campaign and reporting

house oversight committee chairman devin nunez has been trying to find out just, the details and thes. david: yesterday there was a meeting where supposedly the doj was supposed to reveal everything. they were going to have the big reveal where everything unredacted apparently, it was all top secret. so we don't know, but we're hearing that apparently they didn't get everything. >> they didn't get much of anything out of that meeting. when the "gang of eight" and both democrats and republicans went in to talk to justice department officials, my understanding vert all relationship nothing emerged from that meeting -- virtually nothing emerged from that meeting. we can't have a status quo, where cia, fbi engaging in this spying and not answerable to congress. david: you said something i said before, "wall street jornal" editorial page, may not be true, it may have happened before. the fbi apparently did spy for lbj, lynn done baines johnson when he was running against goldwater in 1964. but it is that kind of thing that is not supposed to happen in our democracy. we take steps, the fou

republican congressman devin nunez and trey gowdy meet with christopher wray and dan coats and doj official ed oh callahan. no democrats were invited. ranking member of the intelligence committee adam schiff said this is a serious abuse of power. there is a bipartisan mechanism for highly sensitive discussions that might implicate intelligence sources and methods. it is called the gang of eight and they need to use it. the white house says there's no reason to make it bipartisan. >> have a meeting with the justice department, would the white house welcome democrats at that meeting? >> my understanding is they haven't been the ones requesting the information. i refer you back to them why they consider themselves randomly invited to see something they never asked to. >> there's new legal pressure on the president's personal lawyer and fixer, michael cohen, and it is not good for donald trump. "new york times" reports cohen's partner in the taxi business he owned in new york, russian immigrant known as the taxi king agreed to cooperate with prosecutors in state or federal investigations, accor

. >>> coming up, devin nunez is demanding documents from the justice department and the special counselentally got some documents he skipped one important step. what is that step? stay tuned. and market volatility isn't top of mind. that's because they have a shield annuity from brighthouse financial, which allows them to take advantage of growth opportunities in up markets, while maintaining a level of protection in down markets. so they're less concerned with market volatility and can focus more on the things they're passionate about. talk with your advisor about shield annuities from brighthouse financial- established by metlife. my dai need my blood sugar i'to stay in control.en. so i asked about tresiba®. ♪ tresiba® ready ♪ tresiba® is a once-daily, long-acting insulin that lasts even longer than 24 hours. i need to shave my a1c. ♪ tresiba® ready ♪ tresiba® works like my body's insulin. releases slow and steady. providing powerful a1c reduction. my week? hectic. my weekends? my time. ♪ tresiba® ready ♪ i can take tresiba® any time of day. so if i sleep in, and delay my dose, i take

devin nunez is not the type to let off. trey gowdy will be relentless too.ed. meanwhile, 8:11 in new york and -- brian: get this democrat lead in the midterms is there but it is shrinking but the party is already looking ahead to 2020. so what should their next move be? bernie sanders former campaign manager who almost work ad miracle jeff weaver here to weigh in. ainsley: amazon is firing back at the city of seattle after the city passed a new tax on businesses to help the homeless. ♪ the power of 335 turbo-charged horses the lincoln mkx, more horsepower than the lexus rx350 and a quiet interior from which to admire them. the lincoln spring sales event is here. for a limited time get 0% apr on the lincoln mkx. plus get $1000 bonus cash. ♪ (woman) and my brother ray and i started startsearching for answers.ords. (vo) when it's time to navigate in-home care, follow that bright star. because brightstar care earns the same accreditation as the best hospitals. and brightstar care means an rn will customize a plan that evolves with mom's changing needs. (woman) b

devin niew nunez and tre gowdy. i have to tell you given rosenstein's track record, no way he's going to hand everything over. it's going to be a briefing and here's why. rosenstein wants to control the information begging paul ryan, don't release the information about fiza abuse. this will hold the key to all of the spying on the trump campaign. rosenstein has more problems than stone walling tonight. look at what law professor steve calabrese is arguing mueller is unconstitutional as the great one mark levine said last night citing the majority opinion. the basic problem, mueller is more powerful than 96 u.s. attorneys. he was never confirmed by the senate and robert mueller's appointment is unconstitutional rendering everything he has done since may 17, 2017 null and void. we have heard a couple of fridays ago, judge ellis iii designing to see the scope memo to give him the ability to carry out the witch hunt. he e advice rate e called out mr putting the screws to mannford to get him to sing. singers can also com

they will seek the truth with the "gang of eight" and devin vin nunez at years.rhaps is doing that. his name is joe penta, who interviewed general flynn. he plans to testify against comey and mccabe adding this. i, it was all comey. ainsley: what is his title? he is in the intelligence community? brian: he is in the fbi. interviewed michael flynn. steve: we knew you would read that tweet. we have booked an fbi agent in the next segment. he served for 24 years. ainsley: former. steve: now he says so many agent who want to torch comey and mccabe. they're hoping they can be subpoenaed, which is just a different way to get them to testify aside from the official whistle-blower way. brian: by the way, some times the administration has said it's not about the fbi. it's about the leadership of the fbi, and if this happens, that would back it up. you notice the president went out of his way, i love the fbi. i just have a problem with james comey. ainsley: the president said that he said field offices, that is not the problem. the problem is few bad apples were trying, th

not to mention devin nunez, who was in there too.e a listen. >> i'm starting to imagine what would it have been like had somebody just walked in at that session, which had extremely sensitive information. that's just not done. it's really konts are aconvenients a long-standing practice and norm that makes our government work. >> you know, you talked about sort of the way that things progress in authority tarn states. this is completely unprecedented, and it's happening, and it just happened, and there's nothing anyone can do about it. >> this is the central point. first off, putting aside the shakespearean richness of rudy giuliani who likes to dress up as a drag queen and walk around like donald trump in department stores and call people a clown. i can't get past that. i think bob mueller is going to have the says last laugh. rudy is going to get indied. it's not unironic that he ends up being general counsel. i think part of the strategy is for rudy to see what's part of discovery so he knows where he is vulnerable. what james clap

reporter: tomorrow over at the department of justice there is a meeting between devin nunez, trey gowdy, chris wray, and dan coats as it relates to the informant and documentation that nunez and gowdy have been pushing for. pelosi and chuck schumer have pushed for the expansion of meeting "gang of eight," most influential lawmakers up on capitol hill. we'll see if the meeting opens up. it is set to take place tomorrow. the president tweeting about this and former fbi director responding to some of it. neil. neil: thank you, my friend, very, very much. blake burman at the white house. he is the best. love watching him at the press conference too. i don't love watching this. if you're long the market you don't like what you're seeing now, the dow is dropping on a couple of developments. target missing numbers in the latest report. that is one thing. anything hints of a retail slowdown or you slowing down if you're going to the stores or not as many of you, or maybe not buying as much, then you have got these china trade worries that stuart was touching on in the last hour and three hours

a brewing battle between devin nunez and the department of justice seems to have cooled off a little at the justice department along with trey gowdy to meet with officials over top concerns they have over nunez documents related to the investigation. nunes said it was, quote, productivity and look forward to continuing their dialogue next week. what remains a mystery is what significance the documents may have. joining me is democratic congressman joaquin castro. thank you for joining me. >> thank you for having me, kasie. >> what do you know at this point where this stands? we know there are threats to potentially hold jeff sessions or rod rosenstein in contempt of congress over all of this. the white house seems to agree with the doj in a rare move to say this would compromise an intelligent source. what are you hearing behind the scenes where this stands? >> well, this is usually the part where i would say that certain things are classified and i can't talk about them. but in this case, we have a situation where devin nunes literally has not explained to the committee either what

congressman devin nunez. thank you very much, devin for being here. appreciate it.thank you, the dedicated men and women of the central intelligence agency. it is a true honor to stand here today before the most elite intelligence professionals on the planet earth. nobody even close. you face down our enemies, you protect our families, you stand and watch over our great nation. you don't do it for fame or fortune, or glory. you do it for your country. america is forever grateful. thank you very much. we're here today for the swearing-in of a very special person, your new cia director, someone who has served this agency with extraordinary skill and devotion for 30 years. gina haspel. gina, congratulations, there is no one in this country better qualified for this extraordinary office than you. by the way, if you don't agree with that please let me know now before it's too late, immediately. [laughter]. we'll do it quickly. you live in the cia. you live the cia. you breathe the cia. and now you will lead the cia. congratulations. [applause] [cheers and applause] okay.

first one apparently trey gowdy and devin nunez wanted to see different things, the scope memo, wantednredacted version. clearly the department of justice feels that these members of congress on the republican side shouldn't take a look at these things, that the mueller investigation actually has unfettered access to. >> what a shock. you know, here's the problem. the department of justice is slow-walking. they don't want to give any information to congress. they are ignoring the fact that congress has oversight. congress has the power to oversee what they're doing and to make sure that they are not going beyond what is allowed legally. steve: right. >> what they're trying to do is wait until 2018 midterms in six months, hopefully they want someone in the ma jo the in the house this has to be finished. it has to be over. congress has to get off its duff hold people in contempt. steve: trying to get the documents but department of justice, they're going, okay, we've got the document right here. we will explain to you what is on it but we're not going to let you see it. >> that is a prob

greatest risk, the greatest danger that any security breach could bring about and that is exactly what devin nunez, paul ryan, and now donald trump are doing in the light of day. they're not even pretending that they're trying some back door route to get this information, they know -- they are actively exposing a source to the united states. an intel source. they're threatening america's national security. they don't really care about it. the only thing they care about now, jeremy bash appears to be protecting a president who is surrounded by aides who were all working with the republican bob mueller. i want to ask you quickly a couple things. one, there were a couple of phrases that were escape routes in this constitutional crisis. donald trump surprisingly used one himself when he said, quote, for political purposes. if anybody surveilled my campaign, quote, for political purposes -- i can tell you as a lawyer, i mean, give me that mack truck. i will drive through that loophole. and then rosenstein, some people were upset that rosenstein responded. actually his response made me laugh because tha

devin nunez and trey gowdy doing yeoman's work trying to get to the bottom of the thing.essure campaign is working. rudy giuliani, we have not heard from robert mueller team, september 1st they will wrap up everything if the president sits down in july. my feeling, if you see michael flynn, if you see paul manafort, if you see papdopoulus, these indictments are coming down for things unrelated to this investigation. if i'm the president, i still don't sit down with this guy. abby: who is to say, after they sit down, mueller says we need more time, there is more information that we didn't realize we had. giuliani wants to speak to the spy, the professor. he could have said anything he wanted to the fbi and they ran with it. steve: sure. keep in mind, rudy is negotiating with mueller. if i give the interview with the president to you, what do i get in return? now rudy wants to play up the angle that there was a spy during the obama years who was apparently working for the fbi looking at trump team. abby: guess who is also speaking out. i don't know if you heard much from he