on christmas eve and on christmas day we will have devine litargy. for us, that is what we're preparing for because that is for us an incarnation, its god coming to us, entering us. on christmas day, that is accentuated, that sense of incarnation or that experience of incarnation. so in response to that, you have a lot of joy, of course, a lot of family activities, and we'll have a meal or people will go home and just like any other family, opening of gifts and all of those things. there's a theological zachary mental experience and then there's the -- sacramental experience and then there's the family experience >> and that is leading up to the epiphany >> the celebration of our lord and saviors baptism by john the baptist. we kind of compress, if you will, 30 years between christmas and e pitchny. in the early church, there was no difference and then these were combined because the birth of our lord and savior was found to be so important. i think it's chosen because there was a little empty space on the calendar. the important thing is not the tim