lieutenant jeff frame p ton, camden county police department, marty devlin, civil yan investigators, joe, investigator, as well. how many years for you in law enforcement? >> twenty-four. >> all with? >> in camden sit. >> i you? >> twenty-eight years in philadelphia with the philadelphia police department 15 more with the camden county prosecutor. >> how but? >> thirty years with the camden county prosecutor's office. >> did you all know each other before? >> no. >> no? so, why is this unit put together? >> homicide, unsolved, had have the victims get some closure, families get closure, we put this together to get that going. >> what's the situation, because actually tv shows called colds case base in the philadelphia. is it because our police forces, because of money issues, have shrunk, that you can't even look at cold cases much, they'll bring in some of you guys? >> i think it is a matter of priorities. you have so much money. and the department has to determine how they're going to prioritize their resources. the cold case, it is more philosophy. it is saying that the old ways o