devlin barrett of "the washington post," thank you very much. devlin: thanks for having me. as we know president-elect , biden made news earlier this week when he announced key members of his national security team. missing from that line-up -- his choice for sectary of defense. nick schifrin joins us now with the latest. hello, nick. on of the names that have been mentioned for secretary of defense was michelle flournoy. remind us who she is and what the thinking was about her potential to be named. nick: michelle flournoy is very much still be secretary of defense. --be the leading candidate t secretary of defense. sheie rd widespread praise especially for her men of young women. she was most recently number three in the pentagon under the obama administration. but there is criticismen in r days over policy by people on both sides of the aisle who believe1, since 9he u.s. has become too, interventionio reliant on the military. these critics want to see military withdrawals and removal of support to the saudi led war in yemen. they are concerned about her previous support f

so devlin barrett, thank you for joining us. s mind us about the orig this.hael flynn was president trump's first pick to be his national security advisor, and things inraveled very quickly after that. >> very quickly, fact, so quickly that, when the f.b.i. agener went to iew michael flynn about his conversation with the russianambassador in january of 2017, movers were still unpking boxes in the white house around them. it was that early in the admiasstration. itthe very first days. and the agents asked him abo those conversations and what happened was that flynn denied diaussing those things and couple of other issues. but the reality wasislyak, the ambassador's conversations were captured on f.b.i. wiretaps, so conversations, ands, i those think, frustrating and alarmi a ot of law enforcement officials that flynn was not fohcoming about those conversations. >> woodruff: so, if evidence was so cleart that he did something that he said he hadn't done, why wasn't -- what took is case so long? why has it been dragging out as long as it? has >> well, it's a thr