this is the work of devlin barrett of the "washington post" with us tonight. vlin, share our reporting with your reporting with members of our audience. >> sure. what we're told is that on monday, the head of the fbi and deputy attorney general rod rosenstein went to the white house to meet with chief of staff john kelly, to try to urge him to come around to their position which is that this memo that has been such a fierce subject of debate on the hill should not be made public. their argument is that this do damage to national security and it's essentially an inaccurate attack on the fbi. >> has anyone you've spoken to addressed the fact that when two officials of this standing and rank make the trip to the white house to beg the white house not to release this, what then happens to one or both of these officials if it is released nonetheless? >> well, i think, look, boat the fbi and the doj, the buildings haven't moved but there is a greater distance between those two buildings and the white house than there's been in some time because of this russia investi

sense of all of this, we are joined now by devlin barrett, who covers stice department and f.b.i. for the "washington post." thanks for j rning us. as yorted, deputy attorney general ready rosenstein and fbi director christopher ray were at the white house on monday to make their case in person to the chief of staff john kelly. what does it mean that they felt the need to go public this afternoon or today withthat statement? >> frankly in some ways it meanh expect they have already lost this the ba el. as you saw in the preside's atement on the congressional floor last night, as you see in oankly the body languagf many public officials in the administration and on the hill, everyone involved inhis really expect this memo will come out very soon. and i think as much as the statement is an attempt to say e reasons why it shouldn't come out, i think it's also yrankly a statement to the public to on't assume what you read here is the absolute truth. this may not be, and obviously the fbi is saying it isn't, this isn't an accg rate account what we do and how we do it. >> because of the

. >> devlin barrett of "the washington post" thank you. i have cnn chief legal analyst jeffrey toobin and cnn chief political analyst gloria borge borger. it seems that the president has made up his mind to get this memo out there without seeing it first. >> that seems to be where things are headed. how many law enforcement officials may go out the door with this membomemo? will chris wray, the new fbi director, quit in protest? will rod rosenstein quit in protest? will he be fired? given how the republican base has become fixated and obsessed with this memo, even to the point where they have not let the democratic response be relea released. regardless of what the law enforcement community wants. >> you have this. rosenstein, wray, last-ditch effort monday night, semi private meeting. now doubling down the fbi putting out this public statement, again, expressing these grave concerns which puts chris wray directly at odds with president trump. >> sure, it does. it's like the presidewaving a r front of a bull. chris wray put out that red fl

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he also said something that was really interesting that devlin barrett at the "washington post" noticed. and take a listen to this sound bite. here's where it is. >> because here's what we'll say and everybody says, no collusion, there's no collusion. now they're saying, oh, well, did he fight back? did he fight back? you fight back. you fight back. oh, it's obstruction. >> what does he mean you fight back, oh, it's obstruction? what's he talking about here? >> this to me was the important moment of the entire back and forth. because this is the first time we've seen him say not only is there no collusion but there's no obstruction. he said they say you fight back and that's obstruction. we're just fighting back. that offers a window into his mentality that he's trying to fight back against this alleged conspiracy by the fbi and the doj that's trying to undermine his presidency. in the process of him saying that, in my mind, it also indicates well that he's kind of acknowledging that he is obstructing the probe. he's kind of admitting that he wants to quash it because he does not believ

the "washington post" devlin barrett, thank you very much. carol lee, thank you as well. we'll be reading the exclusive nbc news report that you and kristen welker have out this morning. >>> still ahead on "morning joe," former vice president joe biden sounds off on russia's election interference. why he says republican leaders share some of the blame in not stopping moscow's meddling. >>> plus from the deep state to secret societies, we'll talk more about the continued attacks on the justice department and what they mean for american democracy and the rule of law. you're watching "morning joe," we'll be right back. >> it may be time to declare war, outright against the deep state and clear up the rot in the upper levels of the fbi and the justice department. yes, i said the rot. the fbi and the doj have broken the public trust. by destroying evidence, defying oversight and actively trying to bring down the trump presidency. ♪ when you have something you love, you want to protect it. at legalzoom, our network of attorneys can help you every step of the way. with an estate

i want to bring in devlin barrett, national security reporter for "the washington post." the other story today, the other big story today, is this news that the white house, the administration, jeff sessions, may have put pressure on fbi director christopher wray, the new fbi director, to remove agents within the fbi that they didn't feel were fair or impartial. people that they felt were still loyal to james comey, among those, andrew mccabe, the deputy director of the fbi, somebody that donald trump himself has gone after repeatedly and has accused of being basically a democratic operative. bring us up to speed with what you know so far about those potential interactions. >> right. well, there's been pressure building on the fbi for months, both from the white house and from conservatives in congress, and frankly, from outside groups to try and do something to the deputy director, andrew mccabe, and there's no secret that the president clearly dislikes andrew mccabe, and that dates back to the election. and you know, we have reported that mccabe plans to retire when he

. >> we'll have the reporter on from the "washington post" who devlin barrett on the controversy over the release of the memos. which is one part of this rolling constitutional crisis to build on your term. and elise, add to that, russia sanctions, this presidency, if you look outside the teleprompter box of the state of the union, it's almost like we're desensitized to how serious things are and i'm concerned this president will move to fire mueller. and we have to talk about that. >> well and it's not exactly reassuring when the treasury department apparently just copy and pasted the "forbes" list of the wealthiest russians to build the list of people to bring up for possible sanctions. i'm also i'm struck last night just that cuba and venezuela were singled out for sanctions. what about russia? i think in terms of foreign policy in this speech, even more alarming than whatever the relationship is with russia, whatever the investigation going on stateside is, is the language on north korea. because there was some bombast there. but it wasn't very vague in terms of what that actual p

>> devlin barrett. brian: why does that matter?ely involved in this case texting paramour there lisa page and mentioned devlin barrett. brian: leaking to "the washington post." now is he writing the story. >> while he was at the "wall street journal." he was their source to leak it to. fascinating. steve: thank you very much for joining us two days in a row. >> two days in a row no sleep. i love you guys. brian: no under armor, t-shirts or heat. >> muscle. brian: absolutely. reaction to the president's address from corey lewandowski and david bossie. they only appear together. i don't know why. senator joe manchin will appear by himself. he has courage. as does newt gingrich from undisclosed location. steve: jason chaffetz was in the room for the state of the union. what happened behind the scenes that we didn't see? he will come in and spill the beans. live from washington, d.c. this is the state of the union post game show on "fox & friends." ♪ ♪ coming in hot ♪ heartburn hits heartburn hits fight back fast with tums chewy bites.