it was the governor of new york thomas dewey. [laughter] >> which presented a problem for the maitre d' and they were lucky, they were able to seat dewey and truman far apart. everywhere they went in new york by the way they took cabs. harry parked the car at the waldorf and they took cabs everywhere they went unlike most tourists they didn't have trouble getting a cab because as soon as a cabbie would recognize that harry truman was trying to wave him down they would pull over in droves. they had no trouble getting a cab. incidentally my wife and i did stay at the waldorf two days and we were not comped. we were upgraded, though. we did get upgraded. they gave me that at least. on the drive home, a state trooper named manly stampler, a great name for a cop, a state cop in pennsylvania, manly stampler -- he pulled harry over on the pennsylvania turnpike for careless driving. harry liked to hang out in the left lane and in pennsylvania you have to stay to the right except to pass. and so harry was in the left lane and there was a

tremble before the dewey decimal system. everything that succeeded it.america, it is fantastic how libraries light the flame of insurrection. i remember being very moved by discovering that thomas jefferson, in order forestall his indignation about the tyranny of the exercise by george iii went to local library, and he would be deeply in the debate of the english civil war of the 1840s, cutting off the head of the king, and you imagine him looking at the debate and discourse and the steering parliamentary debates and thinking that could happen in the land of tepid tea, anything could happen in the american library. the library--the free library of philadelphia, i did want in this series to come to philadelphia, partly because one of the programs was called america further which is about religion. it was particularly about black african american religion. we have a choice between the spirit of preparation, which means savannah and philadelphia, and somehow savannah queen, the cheese steak, don't ask me why i know that. this project, a would-be and happy t

[laughter] tyrants tremble before the dewey decimal system and different things that succeeded it. can light the flame of insurrection. i remember being moved by discovering thomas jefferson in order to the own indignation about the tyranny and exercise by george free used to go to a local library in williamsburg and would read deeply in the debate of the english civil war of the 1640 is that in the up cutting off the head of the king and he imagined him looking at the debates and the discourse is and the string parliamentary debate and think that could happen in the land of tepid tea and early, anything could happen in the american library. [laughter] so, the free library of philadelphia, fantastic ghosts of franklin. and i did want to come to philadelphia partly because one of the programs was called american fervor which is about religion, and it was particularly about a black african american religion. and we had to make a choice between here in the spirit of operation between savannah and philadelphia, and somehow, you know, savannah had won over the cheese steak. don't ask me

there's the question we give up information if you were a business and say what's in it for ross hauer dewey shares of its great to hear that folks are really thinking about how do we provide value and send information back and figure out a framework that we can work together to make sure that working. the last question for the panel before we take questions from the audience and the google moderator is what do you think in the concrete sense that we can do to really get the word out and involved citizens in the sense that there is of course a criminal element to cybersecurity and the problem as well as small businesses and the impact to buy an expensive computer, maybe you have several if you are a small business person and you can't use them and people are becoming more aware but what is the role for this public facing consumer side of this effort? >> i think one of the chapters, the full chapter of the report was based on both the education but also the public outreach and a public outreach campaign is supposed to educate how important this issue is and one of the things i've seen is that