first up with ahmed rashid, a pakistani journalist, who's written about the taliban, joined by dexter filkens, who used to be with "the new york times," and their reports for the "new yorker" magazine. >> what we need to do the next 18 months is reduce the violence inside the country so the transition can take place. for that you need negotiations, and you need the military and cia to come on board basically. >> the violence is higher now than it was -- now than it was a year ago. so it's not working. at the same time i think -- i think the danger of these -- of these talks, or the potential danger, is that if you're the taliban, you know, you're just looking at your watch. they'll just r the clock out. >> we conclude this evening with jorge castaneda and a look at mexico and the larger question of north america. >> mexico is a middle class society. i emphasis this in the book. it's not 80% or 75%. it's 55%, 57%, but that's an enormous achievement for mexico. this has happened mainly in the last 15 years. fox's term and calderon's term. combatting poverty, he's done w. he's not done well, in