the dft, the train company, rolling stock companies, actually if you run the system as one integrated not have those problems. if push came to shove and we decided to buy back the franchises, do you think it's something we could afford or should afford? i think it would be a very bad idea and if the treasury was involved in the decision—making after the next election, i think they would stay, do you want to spend as much money buying the trains back would you prefer to spend it on improving the nhs and i think it's obvious what the answer to that would be. giles‘s long history as a train driver has given him at strong views about re—nationalising the railways. they talk about putting the railways back under the government or nationalising them again, it's the biggest load of codswallop i've ever come across because it would not work. there is not the affinity, railwaymen went to work. they went half an hour before the start of work and it would be half an hour after they finished when they would go home. they loved the job. of any lessons from history that the troubled east coast line