of dhs's top two priorities. some said that the terrorist for a variety of reasons are unlikely to be able to obtain, transport, and that made such a device successfully inside the united states. and finally, high explosives. many say that we should continue to plan for this most likely attack by terrorists. it is a low-tech, relatively inexpensive, and almost always effective like christmas day and times square notwithstanding. others say that terrorists, especially al qaeda, are looking for something more sophisticated in and attack that will result -- produced results even more dramatic than 9/11. with that as a background, i will started down the path up getting to look at those. before we actually talk about the specific threats, i want to ask this preliminary question of each of the panelists. if you are able to listen to remarks about taking down the al qaeda leadership and the apparent lack of progress of terrorist groups in obtaining biological and nuclear capabilities, you might be convinced that the ch

congress has got to change the way it oversees dhs. we were there, and you guys have the congressional oversight process can be tremendously constructive and helpful if done the right way. the house armed services committee really adds, on balance, to policy and development. but when you split up oversight among 70 or 80 different committees and subcommittees, you get the-of oversight multiplied. and you get no outcome. congress has construction and remade itself a negative in this. it is time for them to actually fix it. the other problem is that, particularly with bio preparation, there is the federal government, state government, local government and the private sector. there needs to be a partnership that is not adversarial, because things actually have to be done. if the government wants to stop things it can take an adversarial stance, but if it wants things to happen, you have to work together. with developing and stockpiling countermeasures, that ought to be a federal and private sector partnership that the federal government l

i know i keep going back to dhs, but they are the ones who actually handled the green cards. they are looking at a number of technological advancements that possible. the federal govement, it is going to take a long time. given where technology is now, i think that we are certainly much better off and i expect continued advance is going forward. >> ok. ok, we have a microphone coming over to you. >> good afternoon. my name is michael. i am a reporter with the hispanic weekly news service. myueion and it's about immigration -- my question is about immigration reform. the dream act. what you think of the chances of something like that getting passed thisear? do you think the federal government will support it, or will they say they are fighting for comprehensive immigration reform? >> we have a question over here. we have time for two or three more questions. >> thank you. i am at the center for international studies. if there should be comprehensive immigration reform in the u.s., to you think the reform should take in consideration for and development, in order to treat the p

i know i keep going back to dhs, but they are the ones who actually handled the green cards. they are looking at a number of technological advancements that possible. the federal government, it is going to take a long time. given where technology is now, i think that we are certainly much better off and i expect continued advance is going forward. >> ok. ok, we have a microphone coming over to you. >> good afternoon. my name is michael. i am a reporter with the hispanic weekly news service. my question and it's about immigration -- my question is about immigration reform. the dream act. what you think of the chances of something like that getting passed this year? do you think the federal government will support it, or will they say they are fighting for comprehensive immigration reform? >> we have a question over here. we have time for two or three more questions. >> thank you. i am at the center for international studies. if there should be comprehensive immigration reform in the u.s., to you think the reform should take in consideration for and development, in order to tre

i would like to come to a statement earlier when people ask how dhs is configured. somebody said we should separate counter terrorism from the routine missions. i would like to suggest that that is exactly wrong if you look at the question of how you broaden the flow of information and how you network and engage the broadest number of people in a counter -- counter-terrorism mission, the answer is to integrate that mission with day- to-day activity. the essence of what you want to do with your police department is not only have counter- terrorism, you want to build it into the portfolio of every single beat policeman. from the fhs standpoint -- from they dhs standpoint, the way border patrol or the coast guard has counterterrorism in his portfolio means that every time they have a benign encounter, they are attuned to look for the anomalies that suggest something more serious. i would argue that if you want to get better information sharing and the benefit of network and nimbleness in the field, you want to integrate counter-terrorism as part of the portfolio of res

in which state and local governments, the fbi, and dhs are expected to put into one information system? >> you could do that. they had the idea in l.a. beginning a program of suspicious activity reporting. we have been talking about intelligence. most people are thinking afghanistan or pakistan, what we're getting from satellites or spies. you are getting this from the streets of our city. bill and people in l.a. with this together. suspicious activity reporting. not simply haven't come into one -- have it come into one place but creating network servers giving any company in the country to look at what was+ flown in. the fbi has an opportunity to do that but not to be a gate keeper. to allow the information to be available to everyeveryone. i think that caused some negative reaction from people who believe that every time you collect or gogot information, we were on the road to totalitarianism. if you can overcome that knee- jerk reaction, a combination of redistribution of the data over networks systems and the kind of analytic tools that allows you to set the data in real time, usin

congress has got to change the way it oversees dhs.ys have the congressional oversight process can be tremendously constructive and helpful if done the right way. the house armed services committee really adds, on balance, to policy and development. but when you split up oversight among 70 or 80 different committees and subcommittees, you get the-of oversight multiplied. and you get no outcome. congress has construction and remade itself a negative in this. it is time for them to actually fix it. the other problem is that, particularly with bio preparation, there is the federal government, state government, local government and the private sector. there needs to be a partnership that is not adversarial, because things actually have to be done. if the government wants to stop things it can take an adversarial stance, but if it wants things to happen, you have to work together. with developing and stockpiling countermeasures, that ought to be a federal and private sector partnership that the federal government leads in. there are issues

dhs has information that the fbi once and has trouble getting access to. to be fair, i do not think this is all on the fbi. i think it is both. they want to solve it, but they cannot get out of their own way. i know. the fbi, let's talk about the bureau. post-9/11, this is an agency that has undergone a good deal of cultural change. i hate that sort of a phrase, but they had a new national security convention, they have a whole priority of preventing terrorism and not just responding. they are hiring agents into the fbi who do not necessarily see their promotions based on the number of arrests, which by the way was the way they did do it for many years. that is a work in progress. there really is a cultural shift inside the bureau. as with any -- as with any big organization, there are growing pains. you have a dhs that is naissance. it is 7-8 years old and a baby in policy. some of these things contribute and they find it difficult. i am not excusing it, but i think we need to be realistic about the circumstances there are an elite. >> do you want to add

>> that is primarily a dhs matter. so, let me give it a shot. removals' are at an all-time high.has been an emphasis -- there are different enforcement priorities. dhs has its priorities in terms of going after be both criminal convictions, people who are violent, who may be dangerous. that is the number-one priority that the dhs has in terms of enforcement efforts, not just insurance of finding people and putting them in deportation proceedings, but in terms of actually getting them out of the country. there are different levels and a denard member the exact terminology, but i know there are different levels of priorities. number one, national security risks, dangerous people, violent criminals -- those are the ones they go after first. and i should note that criminal aliens are increasing percentage of the population of people that are actually deported from the country. it is not just people who are coming across the border. actually, a growing number of the deportation numbers are the high priority folks, the ones that -- i do not think anyone would disagree khaybar-1 is that

. >> do dhs and the fbi still cy lote information and not cooperate? >-- silo information and not cooperate? >> i think people hide behind rules that allow them to keep information at of the system more away from one another. i think they are getting better. this is part of, enough will, you can solve this problem. dhs has got information the fbi wants and has trouble getting access to. to be fair, i do not think this is all on the fbi. it is on both sides. they want to saba, they cannot get out of their own way. >>-- solve it, they cannot get t of their own way. post 9/11, this has been an agency that has undergone a good deal of cultural change. i hate that sort of race. it has this new national security division. -- i hate that sort of phrase. they are grwoinowing agents. ttat is a work in progress. there is a cultural shift inside the bureau. as with any big organization, they will go through growing pains. you have the department of homeland security that is neeson. this i-- nascent. it is fighting for its place at the policy table. that contribut

what i have seen is, more and more, people are coming to us -- whether it is the fbi, cia, nsa, dhs -- and they are asking if we can help them work with x or that agency. that is a great day. it means that we have cooperation that we need. there are 14 failings in that case. two were us. the others -- all the other three-letter agencies that set in washington, d.c. -- sit in washington, d.c. they're all of these threats. without these agencies cooperating, it will not happen and we will not be successful. we have all long way to go. i truly believe that people asking us and others for help is the most telling sign that folks are really committed to this mission and not to protecting their bureaucratic turf. now you get a sense of how depressing my days are. to me, that is a really good day. [laughter] >> thank you. that is interesting. we have time for are some questions from the experts in the audience -- for some questions from the experts in the audience. >> i want to pick up on what you said that you want to use all of the tools at your disposal to get on the case of anwar al- awl

the efforts of the national guard will be to support the personnel of dhs -- that dhs has placed on the border since 2009. in accordance with the deployment of the national guard, in august, we will see an increase of approximately 300 agents and cbp officers together with an increase in the technology that will be made available. we have mobile surveillance systems we have used with great effect in detecting and facilitating the apprehension of illegal entry of both illegal aliens and drugs coming across our border. we will also deploy as of august 1, 6 additional aviation assets, a-star helicopters and other aircraft to assist along with the infrastructure of the agents and to the technology we have in place for the protection of the border. the national guardsmen that will deploy on august 1 although preparations have been under way to make that possible and we will continue to ramp up in ways that general michael in will discuss -- general mckinley will discuss, will support dhs personnel on the border. they will supply entry identification teamwork indications to our agents to perm

i know i keep going back to dhs, but they are the ones who actually handled the green cards. they are looking at a number of technological advancements that possible. the federal government, it is going to take a long time. given where technology is now, i think that we are certainly much better off and i expect continued advance is going forward. >> ok. ok, we have a microphone coming over to you. >> good afternoon. my name is michael. i am a reporter with the hispanic weekly news service. my question and it's about immigration -- my question is about immigration reform. the dream act. what you think of the chances of something like that getting passed this year? do you think the federal government will support it, or will they say they are fighting for comprehensive immigration reform? >> we have a question over here. we have time for two or three more questions. >> thank you. i am at the center for international studies. if there should be comprehensive immigration reform in the u.s., to you think the reform should take in consideration for and development, in order to tre

prior to joining dhs, she is responsible for peacekeeping operations.she also headed the carnegie commission on preventing deadly conflicts and was a senior public policy fellow at woodrow wilson international center for scholars. she is a thoughtful and engaging leader and we are fortunate to have of -- have her with us this morning. dean came to ask them last night from toronto where she was covering the g-20 summit. while we expect energetic debate today, i hope you'll keep my promise to her that right there will not be necessary for the day. -- riot gear. coveragepart of cnn's of hurricane katrina. cover and homeland security since 2001, she has reported on the security of the nation's pork, chemical plant, and borders. -- ports. >> who would have thought that today's lead story would be about russian spies? it is a bit of a time warp for us. i know you have come here from the gulf. it has taken some resources. how much has that distracted or degraded the department's counter-terrorism efforts? >> not at all. the department believes that fighting te

she explained the role of dhs and what is working and how improvements can be made.oderating was c-span's homeland security consultant. from aspen, colorado. this is just overran hour. at ibm, we are pleased to be an inaugural sponsor of what promises to be the leading counter-terrorism for annually. the real value of an event like this is in the discussions. and the ideas those discussions create. at ibm, it is our path to support and implement these ideas, as i know it is for many of you. the aspen security form alliance profit with our commitment to help secure our nation and provide leadership to help lead a small planet. my colleagues and i are participating in events throughout the course of the form and appreciate the opportunity to be able to -plisten, to learn, and to engae with you in these important discussions. this morning, we kick off the event with a discussion with the deputy secretary of the department of homeland security. she has more than 30 years of military and executive eeperience in the united ssates government, and prior to joining dhs, lute

totally know what it's like to be gone after as a member of a grassroots movement, i've been put on the dhs list and i've been called nazi and racist, along with millions of other conservative grassroots activists. and libertarians, too. we have a hyperracial paranoia environment going on. in part, that's been created by a political ideology that likes to eyes people as a voting bloc. the casualty was shirley sherrod and it's sad when i sit back and watch it. >> larry: peter was the right wing that broke this and had to apologize, right? >> if you step back and look at this in a larger context, it was a tragic thing for this woman and ridiculous that the white house overreacted like this without knowing all the facts. but if you step back and look at race relations and the politics of race in 2010, and compare that to 2010 or 20 years ago, we've made vast progress. we have an african-american president. we don't have riots in the country. we have an african-american head of the gop. when we step back and look, there's still enormous racial problems but the trajectory is really a positive on

she explained the role of dhs and possible improvement. moderating was cnn's homeland security correspondent jeanne meserve. this is an hour. >> has clark mentioned last night, the real value of an event like this is in the discussion. at ibm, it is is our passion to support and implement these ideas as i know it is for many of you. the aspen security forum aligned perfectly with our commitment to help secure our nation and provide a broad leadership to build us mortar planet. my colleagues and i are participating to route the forum and we appreciate the opportunity to be able to listen, to learn, and to engage with you in these important discussion. this morning we kickoff the event with a discussion jane holl lute, the deputy secretary of homeland's security. prior to joining dhs, she served as the assistant secretary general of the united nations responsible for peacekeeping operations on the national security council under both george h. w. bush and bill clinton, an executive vice president of united nations foundation and the better w

. >> do dhs and the fbi still cy lote information and not cooperate?silo information and not cooperate? >> i think people hide behind rules that allow them to keep information at of the system more away from one another. i think they are getting better. this is part of, enough will, you can solve this problem. dhs has got information the fbi wants and has trouble getting access to. to be fair, i do not think this is all on the fbi. it is on both sides. they want to saba, they cannot get out of their own way. >>-- solve it, they cannot get t of their own way. post 9/11, this has been an agency that has undergone a good deal of cultural change. i hate that sort of race. it has this new national security division. -- i hate that sort of phrase. they are grwoinowing agents. ttat is a work in progress. there is a cultural shift inside the bureau. as with any big organization, they will go through growing pains. you have the department of homeland security that is neeson. this i-- nascent. it is fighting for its place at the policy table. that contributes to

told them it was not acceptable they cannot get it into the country -- >> that conversation involves dhs. we are prepared to help them get access to a document. >> not a u.s. passport? >> i understand the question. >> efforts to encourage lending to small businesses. daniel is our guest. former virginia congressman tom davis discusses the political landscape, they knew arizona law and its impact on the republican party. they look at the future of the u.s. postal service with the chairman of the postal regulatory commission. "washington journal" every morning here on c-span. a panel of political analysts say republicans will take control of the house in the midyear alexians. you can hear their reasons -- mid-year elections. choctaw, michael and -- chuck todd takes part in this event. this is about an hour. >> as well as the national charmer hot line -- national journal. we are here to talk about the midterm alexians. another in a tumultuous series -- midterm elections. we've brought together a terrific panel. we will talk among ourselves for 30 minutes exploring this election. we'll open

the same basic principal, that is, full disclosure, transparency of fees, let those departments, dhs to let the d.o.t. know what their defund policies are, let the airline knows what those refund policies are across those agencies. again, it's an attempt to be transparent and disclose to the flying public. >> mr. rivkin, in your testimony, you state that the in the proposed rulemaking that your asking for comments on the cost and benefits of requiring the two prices be provided in the certain airfare advertising. i was wondering if you might explain that? >> certainly, mr. chairman. the basic principal is we want there to be a full, fair price that includes all of the nonoptional prices, so apples to apples can be prepared. we are -- seeking comment really in an agnostic way and hoping we can become educated and learn, you know, through the rulemaking process what would be useful is whether in addition to that price the mandatory price that includes fees, it would be helpful to the public to have another price that would be essentially the bare minimum price, plus what people normall

i have seen the people that work in the new york city dhs and i know those people. to be honest with you, sir, they don't care one bit about the homeless. guest: well, the people that i actually know from new york seemed to be very caring folks. no doubt you have had some experiences that caused you to have those feelings. as it relates to federal oversight, our goal is to provide leadership as opposed to oversight. and to ensure that communities have the tools and resources needed to work with individuals and families who are homeless. communities are not fulfilling that role, that our job is to go in and identify with the gaps and problems -- then our job is to go in and identified the gaps and problems without try to tell local communities what their priorities should be and how best to address the issue. host: one of our viewers says -- is that something that you question when you are thinking about jobs training for the homeless? guest: not at this particular time. the department of labor may have that information available. one of the strategies we use is to d

i have seen the people that work in the new york city dhs and i know those people. to be honest with you, sir, they don't care one bit about the homeless. guest: well, the people that i actually know from new york seemed to be very caring folks. no doubt you have had some experiences that caused you to have those feelings. as it relates to federal oversight, our goal is to provide leadership as opposed to oversight. and to ensure that communities have the tools and resources needed to work with individuals and families who are homeless. communities are not fulfilling that role, that our job is to go in and identify with the gaps%- and problems -- then our job is to go in and identified the gaps and problems without try to tell local communities what their priorities should be and how best to address the issue. host: one of our viewers says -- is that something that you question when you are thinking about jobs training for the homeless? guest: not at this particular time. the department of labor may have that information available. one of the strategies we use is to

, general it for chart webore and next to her from the department of homeland security, raul ortiz, dhs is a very important role in all these issues and next to raul, mike mcinerney. with that, madam chairwoman, i would yield to dr. shah and look forward to discussing the posters at the appropriate time. thank you very much. >> madam chairwoman and ranking members of the committee, i appreciate the opportunity to be here to address this issue here today. i also appreciate the chance to testify with ambassador holbrooke, the two of us traveled together recently with the secretary of state to attend the kabul conference and to work on the range of issues that we'll be discussing today. i share his thank you for your recent vote in supportof funding for the afghanistan strategy that the president has laid out and also his condolences on the tragic event last night in pakistan. this recent trip was an important opportunity to assess progress in the civilian effort and to observe the government of afghanistan hosting a major international conference at which they ld out their strategy in are