which the dhs can access without anybody in your not knowing about. they hold true even if you are traveling within the u.s., any government in the world where the airline or the reservation system or the travel agency has an office can get access to it for example the chinese public security bureau and those in the united airlines in beijing ask them to call up your reservation from washington to chicago because the chinese citizens are subject to the jurisdiction and the law and they can hand them over to the bureau. nowak record is kept up there by the reservation system it isn't visible to the airline that this has happened and unless you or somebody you know happens to be looking over your shoulder in the bathroom when it happens after the fact there is no way to know whether it has happened. tsa's incomplete diagram of how the process works on the government side there are many incomplete messages but i want to focus on a few things here. the aviation entities -- at the end to the in the lower left it's shown as a pass through rather than the ce

dhs is given none of the tools it would need to do that. the washington monthly wrote a great piece on this in 2007, perry reworked the language to get it added to a spending bill in a confidence committee where the dhs would have nominal authority to regulate the chemical industry but also have its hands tied where required. let's recap. the bush administration's own cabinet secretaries come up with plan to regulate these chemical plants. it is stymied by perry once. the bush administration sides with the chemical industry when brought before the congress and in a back room maneuver. perry does the chemical agency's maneuvering by moving it to dsh the chemical industry thinks they can more easily manipulate. now, go ahead to six years. the west fertilizer company is storing more than 1300 times the amount of ammonium nitrate that would normally trigger safety oversight by dhs. it does appear now not only did dhs literally have no idea the west fertilizer company was storing ammonium nitrate, according to congresswoman betty thompson, democ

borders in the last 10 years, dhs has a file on you. with the identity project, we have put out forms for people to use. you can find them on our website or on my website. we have been compiling the your -- the responses. i stewed for the portions they have repelled. tions theyfor por withheld. in their discretion, they released quite a bit of damming information. some information we know is there include complete copies of passenger records, airline reservations and non-airline data. of any timelog, you cross the border and notes attached to that to give more information about whatever they deem of interest. is a very simple passenger name record from washington dulles to bueonos aires. in only contact information this reservation is the phone number of a friend than a game -- gave what i reconfirmed my flight, who was intrigued and surprised to know he was permanently linked with me and our homeland security files. -- anotherever simple reservation from montrÉal to san francisco. we see an ip address and a timestamp. that can be corre

borders in the last 10 years, dhs has a file on you. with the identity project, you can find them on our website. at papers please.org. we have been compiling the responses. eventually i sued for the portions that they withheld. they retroactively exempted the automated targeting system and the district court upheld that exemption. but they did release quite a bit of self damning information. some of the information that we know is there and have seen, and examples include passenger name records, they also include non-airline data. and the log of any time you cross the border for any reason, and more information to be given in regards to people of interest. this is a simple thing as it happens. what is interesting is the associational data and the only contact information. the phone number of a friend that i gave one ahead of time. i was surprised to know that he had been permanently linked with me in our homeland security file. another simple reservation, here we see an ip address. and that can be correlated whatever other internet rec

dhs says this would have helped the fbi in this case. do you agree? absolutely. >> good. one example of many where we are tightening things up. that would have been relevant. now, i mentioned this to your previous witness from your group. i guess you are the second

there are many good people in dhs. as an outsider, i will tell you itlikes to me as though it added one more obstructive layer of bureaucracy and badly led. in fact, do we need a director of national intelligence who is just another layer above the old cia director who used to be the senior guy. so, as you know very well as you add layers of bureaucracy, thick in the hierarchy. more things get lost. more people to contact. if you look at -- if you had a chart in front of you, bill, of how who reports to who be with al these agencies and across agencies, it would look like a bowl of spatting painted by picasso. >> lock, the customs people, their department of homeland security now. and they are spefsed to flag people coming in or out of the united states with intel from the cia and the fbi depending on overseas cia, and united states that's fbi. but now you have in fighting, finger pointing and even within the justice department itself you have got the fbi as quoting meg begin kelly stunned that their interrogation of t

on the issue of the documents that are put together by dhs and fema and from a what i understand, the documents that are put together were at least post 9-1-1 and people who do build major structures, they are not put together by lay people. so, with respect to the geography, i can't speak to that because that's not my level of expertise. i have to depend on all the experts t warriors reason and 49ers stadium are going through a very extensive security system. they don't need to bring it out to the public like we do, but they are, like oklahoma and kansas city, they are. with respect to the safety act designation, the way it works, director, is once we have the design guidance criteria and approved by the board of directors, the next step is we then meet with them again in more detail, we put together and application, there is an extensive application you fill out and denny's will be helping out with that and it's submitted. we are going to submit volumes and volumes of material and they will come in and make their first determination. they told me on first read it's the best candidat

intelligence community, for a project such as this, it's also been my experience that the folks in dhs who establish these standards are not the people who build buildings, they don't generally fund the construction of buildings and in many cases have set standards that render construction of building such a federal essential pass facilities in areas that are unbuildable. i think it's good and fine to start with fema standards, that it doesn't necessarily mean it's a realistic standard. i think it was previously, i'm sure this wasn't the intent but to clarify for the sake of the public of an implication that geography is not a factor in threat assessment. i don't think that's consistent with the current and best thinking in terms of rva's and risk assessment. i'm assuming it was a risk assessment. we don't want to build buildings that are going to create a disproportional impact or collapse. i'm sure it's now and at the end of the process. it's almost a suggestion that up to this point we have been moving on path of designing that is going to move to progressively collapse. i want to s

that includes the c.i.a., fbi, nsa, atf, dea, dia, dhs, coast guard, pacific command, strategic command and special operations crew. 854,000 people hold top security clearances. redub dancy is rampant. 51 federal organizations, 51 have military commands track money going to and from terrorist networks. retired army general john vines told the "washington post" about the u.s. intelligence system because it lacks a synchronizing process, it has reduced effectiveness and waste. we can't effectively assess whether it's makinging us more safe. joining us is rick hertzberg, and josh barrow, katrina vandenhuevel and distinguished senior fellow at demos, and bob herbert and soing us from boston, nbc national investigative correspondent, michael isikoff. we just read a litany of statistics regarding how gigantic and perhaps unwieldy the u.s. intelligence network is. we have no doubt ramped up our counterterrorism activities after boston. is there a flaw in the system, namely, is it just too big to catch people like tamerlan tsarnaev and dzhokhar tsarnaev? >> excellent question, alex. while we're

. >> dhs clearly denied him to be naturalized as a citizen for some reason.hink, not to criticize because i'm a big fan of the fbi, but to go back and see that we plugged loopholes is really critical. >> bret: so let's bring in our panel start there steve hayes senior writer for the "weekly standard." a.b. stod gard and syndicated columnist charles cac. steve, this was an interesting day about. >> this was bad day about back and forth about his travel. lindsey graham very clear. the associate director of the fbi told him that the fbi had no idea when tamerlan tsarnaev left the country or returned. now you have the head of homeland security, janet napolitano testifying before congress saying that, in fact, dhs did know when he left the country. because there was a ping in the system, whatever that means. what we don't know is why fbi didn't know what dhs knows. if that's in fact what happened. are these stove. is this the kind of problem we were facing before 9/11 where you have certain parts of our intelligence in law enforcement apparatus that know what's ha

to be in-- -- for dhs with us. investigating boston. they are also looking to us. can i quipping know whether there was a fusion center in that area? we worked very hard to get these in terms of having people work together. my concern is, are we going to get -- my concern was the lack of credible threat. that seems surprising to me. will we be able to get a briefing to determined what might have been happening and how the fusion center is working? >> you are talking about boston? yes. all of theng into things in the investigation, i will say there is a good fusion center there. they have been actively involved there it will be happy to provide a briefing on how the fusion center has been used and is operating in the boston case >> i hope we can have a briefing with homeland security and others. let me just finish. i will just say again, we have given every opportunity for if youtrative to delay, will, is moving on. everywhere i go, people are horrified. we do not want to have a confrontation. we like to have a reas

and the secret service the working in concert with the fbi and dhs to get to the bottom of this. obviously, a very tense time here in the wake of the bombings in boston. and then that letter that was intercepted to the senator that we learned about, so again, right now, the secret service fbi and dhs investigating a letter addressed to president obama that did contain a substan substance, so that is the latest here from the white house. the briefing by jay kacarney is expected to start within the half hour, so he will undoubtedly get a number of questions about this. president obama scheduled to travel to boston tomorrow, but obviously, people here in d.c. on heightened alert. they have been ever since that bombing on tuesday and this just adding to this concern. >> kristen welker from the white house, jonathan dienst is sta standing by for us as well here in the studio. jonathan, what, if anything, can you add to this? what more with k you tell us about this suspicious letter mailed to the president or the suspicious letter that was also sent to senator richard shelby? >> we are

dhs have beenat cooking the books. that that is over inflated. if they are not calculating their numbers, why do not expect and to calculate their figure? they say that it will be pre- empted. many of those state efforts have been the only enforcement. implemented at the beginning of 2008. populatiompare to a 1% drop tionwi the would be gutted of those bills become law. statesould be a vacuum would be prevented from doing absolutely anything. that is an important flaw in the bill. -verifyl scraps the e system. this bill's traps that system and replaces it with something else. even though it get 90% and approval -- approval ratings, one has to wonder why the bill is written this way. the fact that they don't have to be in place for five years from enactment, you are talking about a nine-year timeframe at the minimum before it's likely to be in effect. seem to be a goo faith effort. if it were serus, it would say make it mandatory now. like the states have done a very successfully. the senators -- i know them very well. they have met with me and th

i don't think the dhs secretary should have the immense discretion. it's a massive increase we see over discretion. it expands current laws which allows waivers in cases of extreme hardship. the change of language can have huge consequences. we're just down to hardship. it expands the hardship to the alien's parent as well. that isn't part of current law. two pages before that, on page 328, the same unprecedented discretion is given to immigration judges and immigration corporate proceedings and have the authority to terminate the proceedings on the low threshold hardship. it can be apply to people that are deported and inned a i michelle. a person removed and convicted of some sort of domestic violence or spousal abuse could come back in and try to claim eligibility under the waiver. this is a loophole that might seem small enough. it's very big, actually. >> again, do people that apply for legalization rpi status and get denied having an opportunity to appeal the decision? and if so, what is that appeal process? what impact will it have on the feder

dhs doesn't even own it and it's not out by dod, but a think the company that developed it.'m told that costs about 8 million bucks apiece. can someone confirm that for us? >> that's roughly correct, sir coming out. >> talk about the platforms that could be used on. >> the only platform we have is manned platforms that give us more flexibility. we're going to piggyback on that because it's similar in type two ours. when they finished that, we will piggyback on the same work. >> i would certainly try to find out what the drones schedule is pure to try find out which the reader is on and the ones that are not. one of the lessons are to part with his furniture resource to drones. we need to figure out how to get the smaller airplanes and how that can be used effectively been assassinated. can the theater or some other system be mounted on the lighter than air and neither areas along the border. talk about this applications that take knowledge that makes sense, can be good and the thousands and thousands of men and women across our borders that went into the mexican border to th

and they've be talking about the fema and dhs regarding major events in san francis francisco. note you know this past week we had the boston bombing and we are praying for the folks in boston and thanks to outlining all the boston police department for all their good work. >> events. i'd like to update you on some recent eventsor on monday we'll be hosting a advisory board. work together all year long and this is an opportunity toh@ Ñ c together to share they're good ideas and hopefully, they'll help each out. we'll be meeting with them on the 29th. those meetings by mayor are being held throughout the city. this week we graduated 33 members of new recruits. i attend and the chief attend the initial frays and we were there for their graduation.i@Ñ i was dispatched to another meeting and2fthe mayor addresse community concerns represented to public safety. personally met with the commissioner of singapore and we discussed our community policing theories, our technology issues together and it was a great discussion great challenge and now they want to come and join us in the plan

and the problem is dhs has this information and presumably the man knows about this and the questionbe answered right now, when asked the director, is did the fbi know about this. and if he didn't know, why didn't he. >> right. >> and after the visit to russia, as we understand at this point, came home and posted a lot of videos, including one from a radical muslim cleric called phase muhammad. did the fbi miss something or not? this is somebody that they do admit at this point 45d been on their radar. they had dismissed him, but then he's posting radical videos. >> when you mention was a ball dropped, the idea that maybe dhs did not share that information with the fbi, after all we've been through after 9/11 and talking about connecting the dots and just maybe if they did know that, wouldn't they have reopened that lead that they closed? now, i was told that the case was closed. there's nothing derogatory. but it seems to me if you foe he's traveling back to russia, after russia has warned the fbi of his behavior, it seems to me you could have reopened that lead. >> in the past, the

dhs clearly denied him to be naturalized as a citizen for some reason. >> u.s. officials say they're working serious among investigators can the bombers got their skills from the al qaeda online magazine called "inspire" but a member of the task force says the quantity and the efficacy of the three pressure cooker bombs suggested they had hands are on training, not something you can pick up online. >> neil: be want to go quickly to boston major men -- mayor menino, setting up a fun, money set aside for victims who war part of this attack a week ago. we're told anywhere from 10 to $20 million has been collected. let's listen in. >> so many, the love and caring of so many has really shown howbe beloved our great city is to people all of the world. as president obama spoke last week, what makes bon such a special, unique place, he spoke of the love we all share for each other. he said, for him, the toughest mile is when someone is there to pick us up as we fail, as we fall. last week, many people in our city fell. but so many rushed forward to help pick them up. sp

what the evidence would have to show for dhs to show that ?riggers were not satisfied >> the triggers would not be satisfied. .> thank you, madame secretary >> we talk often on issues. i appreciate yours and the president's commitment on immigration. spent a long discussion -- more than one and i thank him for having so many issues of importance before this committee. he was kind enough to say he did not want me to be bored. debate, ford to the ame, there will always be reason why we cannot go forward on immigration reform. the terrible event in boston or any other thing. it is not denying reality to say we cannot go forward. now is a good time. we have had eight senators working on this. my wife is a daughter of immigrants. ishink of how this country improved and made better by immigrants. the most powerful nation on earth cannot face up to reality lawfine day law -- find a that faces reality, then shame on us. a growing number of senators believe we can. we want to be the conscience of the nation. thank you for being here. we stand in recess

saying we are going to have to cut the border patrol and today they discovered in the headquarters of dhsgold that had been there the whole time they didn't know where it was. it was discovered like last week. and they now are able to fund the border security: look, it's very obvious what happened here. in the experience in the past when there have been shutdowns or threats of shutdowns, republicans took the blame. that was in the 1990s with the government shutdown and with the debt ceiling. if anything bad happened, even if it was unrelated, let's say the reduction in our credit rating. the republicans got the blame. obama assumed it would happen with the sequester so he went after all the stuff that would be really appalling like denying iowa tots a visit in the white house and opening the border and it turned out look they are spending $3.5 trillion a year and you can't have a tour of the white house and you have to end up laying off the border security people? it's absurd. so the blame was headed the administration's way and thus the pots of gold all of a sudden have been discovered i

dhs has it. fbi puts up a flag. so does dhs. the fbi doesn't know that he went to russia? the homeland security flag does go up. what happened in the joint terrorism task force which is where it is all supposed to o the ground come together. the cvp agency, can they talk to the fbi agent? i want to know the answer to that question. if the fbi agent knew about the travel that just may have reopened that lead because when comes back from russia he is clearly radicalized when you look at his you tube website and all of the witnesses we are seeing coming out and nine longs later conducts the greatest terrorist attack since 9/11. >> i want to talk about syria. we will talk about this in the next segment at length with the israeli ambassador. i want to ask you guys about it as well. after stating the use of chemical weapons was a red lien this week president obama seemed to back off that. take a look. >> this is not an on or off switch. this is an ongoing challenge that all of us have is to be concerned about. >> chris: senator manchin, as a member of the senate the armed servic

and they enter this guy into the tide system the terrorist data bank, once he goes back to russia, dhs picks up tfact the system pings and the fbi and cia are never informed about his trip to russia, that goes back to pre-9/11 mentality of information. would have been known he went back to russia. i'm disappointed in the russians. but that's no excuse for us not being able to track a guy in our system who goes back to one of the most radical parts of the world, and when he comes back and starts embracing radical islam for the world to see, how did we miss that? obviously we've got a lot of things to do in terms of post mar dem to fix our system so people like this when they come back to america from russia and start embracing radical islamic ideology we visit them and say, in 2011 you said you loved this country, wanted to be an olympic boxer for this country what are you doing now on these websites? by the way, what did you do in russia? when did you go back? >> the president did say, in the news conference, that based on what i've seen so far, and i'm paraphrasing what the president

guest: thank you to dhs, who funded the survey.> on the next "washington journal," the author of the closing of the american border looks at the effects of the bombings in boston on the immigration debate. then, a discussion about federal and state health care exchanges. of moreelimination than $40 billion of tax breaks to oil and gas companies in the president's 2013 budget request. live atgton journal," 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> katherine wang and timothy zhou are second prize winners in c-span's student cam competition. they attend eastern middle school in silver spring, maryland. in their video, they asked the president to make the economy and deficit reduction a priority in 2013. >> we face the greatest challenge of all. a massive debt that is smothering growth and is exceeding the entire size of our company. >> we see now a fiscal mess that affects all of us. >> the nation is on the road to bankruptcy. >> balance the federal budget now. >> these are very big, very political and policy decisions. >> those create large on

him but then he's posting radical videos. >> the idea that a ball was dropped, the idea that maybe dhshat information with the fbi, after all we've been through after 9/11 and talking about connecting the dots and just maybe, if they did know that, wouldn't they have reopened that lead that they closed? now, i was told that the case was closed, there's nothing derogatory. but it seems to me if you know he's traveling back to russia after russia has warned the fbi of his behavior, it seems to me you could have reopened that lead and just maybe this could have been prevented. >> and there's a lot of people asking that question tonight, chairman. in the past, fbi has interviewed, investigated other people who have gone on to successfully commit attacks on u.s. soil. muhammad and nidal hasan charged with killing 13 people at the ft. hood, texas, shooting. this is a difficult question to ask but they are investigating thousands of people. is it acceptable or basically inevitable that someone is going to fall through the cracks? >> well, in fairness to them and i know working with the jttfs

intelligence community, for a project such as this, it's also been my experience that the folks in dhs who establish these standards are not the people who build buildings, they don't generally fund the construction of buildings and in many cases have set standards that render construction of building such a federal essential pass facilities in areas that are unbuildable. i think it's good and fine to start with fema standards, that it doesn't necessarily mean it's a realistic standard. i think it was previously, i'm sure this wasn't the intent but to clarify for the sake of the public of an implication that geography is not a factor in threat assessment. i don't think that's consistent with the current and best thinking in terms of rva's and risk

dhs secretary janet napolitano is scheduled to testify before a house hearing on the department's 2014get. >>> and today is national high five day. the holiday highlighted in this youtube video raises thousands of dollars for cancer research. this year, the group is dedicating their efforts to the victims of the boston marathon bombing. >>> here's a look at what's coming up on the "today" show. breaking news, the latest on an explosion at a fertilizer plant in texas. fbi agents are pursuing what he call a strong lead this morning in the investigation of the deadly boston marathon bombings. now, keep it on this channel for continuing local news, weather, sports and moring. i'm richard lui, thanks for watching "early today," just your first stop of the day on your nbc station. have a good one. . . . >>> there was a major, major explosion, the windows came in on me, the roof, the ceiling. >> the school is gone, the apartments are gone. it is horrible. >>> a desperate search for survivors in west texas. a small town leveled. hundreds of people are injured, as many as 15 are dead. dozens of

last year dhs expanded security and cities to an acra city los angeles. richard daddario the program has come a long way. i remember the first time it was first being rolled out and they were testing it on the border between estero county and queens county on sunrise highway and the first guy that was stopped was a poor guy coming back from a stress test and it got pulled over and he said, you are nodding. he said my heart is in good shape but i'm going to have a heart attack right now. the lights were on and the helicopters were moving. he thought we had our first nuclear terrorists. if poor guy was -- with radiation. anyways essential to the security of the city because similar to what happened in london madrid it's believed that the next threat against major city will be launched from the suburbs and as bad as that would be if we were to have a dirty bomb it would be that much wor and that is why this secure the cities program that is transferatransfera ble to virtually every other urban area in the country. at today's hearing will examine the threat o

the first is that we are following a fema dhs for the assessment of what are called design basis for both natural and potential man-made threats that could impact the transit center. so we are following a federally established set of guidelines. the second component there is that it is from our assessment is kind of the standard of practice, the standard of care for a facility of our nature. and then the third component that you touched upon from a reliability perspective, is that through this prospect and the document of this process, we do intend to apply for a safety act certification, the safety act was passed in 2002 and it's a federal program again to evaluate the design of systems and facilities to document the kind of again the standard of care being taken in their design from a threat perspective and make recommendations for the liability and insurance that those facilities should carry after certifying that adequate care has been taken in the design and establishi the limits of liability, the safety act caps the liability of the agency in the event of an incident to those i

and senator jim inhofe is trying to move legislation to cap the amount dhs can buy.s is exactly what john has just said, isn't it, ryan? >> no, that's exactly right. and a member of congress, a republican member of congress, told napolitano, i have seen this on "the drudge report" and credible media outlets such as "the drudge report" are reporting this. so you need to respond to it. and she said something back like, well, i'm not exactly sure that i would agree with you that that's a credible media report. you know, that's a problem in washington. that people do rely on "the drudge report" to kind of get their traffic signals of where they ought to go. believe it or not. if you show somebody this site who isn't involved in the media they think they've been transported back to 1997 or something. it's hard to convince them, no, actually, this is an extremely influential and powerful site here in washington run by this guy down in south florida, wherever the heck he is, and he puts up whatever he wants to. and so next thing you know, you have republicans asking the hom

this is dhs officials greeting them as they come back from the airport. a lot of legitimate questions you could ask. i am not sure how you could establish a specific tracking system for people based on how long they were gone. i don't know what that would look like. some legitimate concerns raised. anthony from washington dc on the independent line. go ahead. caller: one of my concerns have lways been, we talk [indiscernible] almost a decade now. i think it is more like 20 million. senator schumer and lindsey a new law.ing, how are they going to enforce this? you really think 20 million people are going to come out of the shadows, they are delusional. that is not going to happen. we have problems right now [indiscernible] from federal government. where is the money coming from to enforce this? guest: the 20 million is a pretty good number. i think it is a pretty good number. 11 million is in the ballpark. the question of how many are going to come forward -- go back to 1986 which was the last time the u.s. congress to this. a big bill passed that offered

kelly dearman is the dhs, department of human services commissioner on our board and has been for several years. she has run her own elder law -- elder issues law practice and worked for the s.f. city attorney's office representing child welfare workers. she's very articulate and knowledgeable about budget and finance matters and has made a valuable contribution to our board. and i just wanted to add she has the full support of her fellow board members and the public authority. trisha, you may have read her e-mail, but due to the current state of her disability, she's pretty much confined to her apartment. we teleconference her into all our meetings. she served on the san francisco public authority board also for several years. four of these are renominations, excuse me. and she's been board secretary for most of that time. she is also a wheelchair user and a younger consumer of ihss services. she's also been a disability rights advocate of many years both at planning for elders and she continues to work with community living campaign. in addition to the long-term care coordinating counci

what the evidence would have to show for dhs to show that triggers were not satisfied? >> if conditions return to where they were in 2005 and 2006, the triggers would not be satisfied. >> thank you, madame secretary. >> we talk often on issues. i appreciate yours and the president's commitment on immigration. he and i spent a long discussion -- more than one and i thank him for having so many issues of importance before this committee. he was kind enough to say he did not want me to be bored. as i listened to the debate, for some, there will always be a reason why we cannot go forward on immigration reform. the terrible event in boston or any other thing. it is not denying reality to say we cannot go forward. now is a good time. we have had eight senators working on this. my wife is a daughter of mmigrants. i think of how this country is improved and made better by mmigrants. the most powerful nation on earth cannot face up to reality and fine day law -- find a law that faces reality, then shame on us. a growing number of senators believe we can. we want to be the consc

can tell you president obama just finished a phone call with fbi director robert muller as well as dhs secretary janet napolitano. they have been briefing him on the coordinated response between the federal, state and local officials. he has been keeping up to date with this situation since about 3:00 when he was first notified. i can also tell you that he has placed calls to the boston mayor, tom menino, as well as the governor of massachusetts deval patrick to extend his thoughts but also to say the administration will be putting its full weight and resources behind the response to this crisis in boston. now, out of an abundance of caution, the secret service has closed off pennsylvania avenue to foot traffic. that is the road outside of the white house, chris. there's never any vehicles that travels along pennsylvania avenue outside of the white house, but as of right now it's been closed to foot traffic as well. i want to emphasize that that is out of an abundance of caution. that is something that normally happens in this type of situation. so president obama continuing to stay up

. >> enabling dhs to further focus its resources on criminals, human smugglers and traffickers and national security threats. >> the plan has $17 billion for security and border agents. >>> coming up, sam brock looks at the changes to the border security like we were saying as well as the immigration reform proposal. that's all coming up tonight at 6:00. >>> okay. what happened in boston earlier this week has many of us thinking about how we would respond to tragedy. a 7-year-old san jose girl might have something to teach us all about that. >> she lost her mother to cancer earlier this year, but ever since then she has not stopped trying to make something good out of something so bad. garvin thomas is here with tonight's bay area proud. >> reporter: on the morning of january 25th, the day after her mother, robin, died of breast cancer, she brought a jar into the family's kitchen, pulled out some money and started to count it. her dad asked her what she was doing. the answer it turns out was that she was going to do something about the disease that took her mother so one day others don't su

one of the things as a command and control tool that cal fire is experimenting with is a program that dhs science and technology created and if you are ready to write it down, you can look online, you can google it, it's called the next generation incident command system or nics. it's a command and control web-based tool that we're looking with mit lincoln labs and dss and i would foresee when we stand up our wing operation center at miramar that the marine corps liaison and the navy liaison and if need be the guard liaison would have access to that tool. the next generation command system is a fantastic web-based command and control technology that we expect to use in the future. with that, thank you. >> thanks. colonel yeager. >> i just want to say you can't underestimate the risk presented by these environments we fly in and really the relationships that we build with cal fire and the training prepares us to mitigate that risk. as rear admiral riveras said, bad things tend it happen at night. they also happen on the weekend and i think we have a 3-day week jepld here but i assure you w