sixth, dhs has brought on more transportation assets to assist in the effort. the coast guard is loaning their assets to help transport the children. ice is leasing additional charter aircraft. seventh, throughout the rgv sector, we are conducting public health screening for all those who come into our contagious diseases or public health concerns. both dhs and hhs are ensuring that the children's nutritional and hygenic needs are met while in our custody. that children are provided regular meals and access to drinks and snacks throughout the day, that they receive constant supervision, and that children who exhibit signs of illness or disease are given proper medical care. we made clear that all individuals will be treated with dignity and respect and any instances of mistreatment reported to us will be investigated. eighth, working through fema's national response coordination center, we are coordinating with volunteer and faith-based organizations to help us manage the influx of unaccompanied children crossing the border. the american red cross providing bla

this group includes dhs and all of its components. the department of health and human services, defense, justice, state and gsi. i in turn have to my right to serve as the coordinating official for the u.s. government wide response. third, we have established added capacity to deal with the processing and the housing of the children. we are creating additional capacity in places and considering others. fourth, dhs and hhs are increasing spanish speaking case management staff, increasing staff handling incoming calls from parents or guardians. raising awareness of the parent hot line provided by fema and operated by hhs. surging staff to manage the intake of cbp referrals to track shelter bed capacity and facilitate shelter designations. here i must note from personal observation that our border patrol and other personal as well as perm from hhs, ice. fema and the coast guard are doing a remarkable job in difficult circumstances. all of these dedicated men and women deserve our recognition, support and gratitude. fifth, dhs is building

that is a dhs priority. or a function. can tell you our immigration judge's responsibility is to issue removal orders but the actual numbers of how many are sent home i'd defer to secretary johnson. dofshlths most of the children after adjudication stay in this country? >> up until the recent situation, the average pace at which unaccompanied children were deported was something like 1800 a year. >> and how many stayed? thousands? >> well, eventually if there's a final order of deportation and they've gone through the process, they should be returned to their home countries. >> should be. >> we've done that at a rate of about 1800 a year. and part of this request is so that we can accelerate that process so that more are returned, given the current situation. >> thank you, madam chair. >> thank you, madam chair and all of you for being here. let me start with you, jeh johnson. 433 million are slated to go to custom and border patrol. 364 for overtime and new border agents. where is the other $70 million going? >> good ques

we're actively working with our colleagues at dhs, department of justice, and other federal agencies through the coordination efforts from the department of defense at joint base san antonio lackland, ventura naval station, ft. sill in oklahoma. we're continuing in our efforts to identify both public and private facilities. it is a complex situation with a number of challenges. we welcome working with the committee and congress in efforts to address it. thank you, and i'll be happy to answer questions. >> thank you, mr. greenberg. and miss palmieri, you're welcome and we welcome your testimony. >> i'm pleased to be here to discuss the department of state's response to the sharp rise in the number of unaccompanied children arriving at our border, with a direct link between this activity and dire economic and social conditions in the region. and what we're doing to further the national security interests of the united states. i appreciate your interests and look forward to working with you on this important issue. the administration is deeply concerned by the substantial increase in th

that is a dhs priority. or a function. can tell you our immigration judge's responsibility is to issue removal orders but the actual numbers of how many are sent home i'd defer to secretary johnson. dofshlths most of the children after adjudication stay in this country? >> up until the recent situation, the average pace at which unaccompanied children were deported was something like 1800 a year. >> and how many stayed? thousands? >> well, eventually if there's a final order of deportation and they've gone through the process, they should be returned to their home countries. >> should be. >> we've done that at a rate of about 1800 a year. and part of this request is so that we can accelerate that process so that more are returned, given the current situation. >> thank you, madam chair. >> thank you, madam chair and all of you for being here. let me start with you, jeh johnson. 433 million are slated to go to custom and border patrol. 364 for overtime and new border agents. where is the other $70 million going? >> good ques

the wheelhouse of dhs like cyber. and the fact that we don't have, you know, clearer lines of authority on capitol hill dealing with that issue, i think that's led to what has been a real problematic delay this getting cyber legislation which is going to go a long way to helping us meet what is a very real threat to national security now and in the future. so there are real life implications to this situation. i agree it might not sounder terribly sexy, but it really is fundamentally important we get this right. >> have we convinced you this is a dynamic issue? >> yes. it's clearly dynamic. it's clearly dynamic. well, getting a little bit more granular, what would you, how would you reshape the congressional oversight? i mean, are we talking one committee, two committees? how would it look, and how would you get there? maybe we'll start with tim and move down the line. >> i don't think -- while we have recommended through tom and lee's leadership, the nerve commission, we've -- the 9/11 commission, we've recommended a

that is a dhs priority. or a function. i can tell you our immigration judge's responsibility is to issue removal orders but the actual numbers of how many are sent home i'd defer to secretary johnson. >> do most of the children after adjudication stay in this country? >> up until the recent situation, the average pace at which unaccompanied children were deported was something like 1800 a year. >> and how many stayed? thousands? >> well, eventually if there's a final order of deportation and they've gone through the process, they should be returned to their home countries. >> should be. >> we've done that at a rate of about 1800 a year. and part of this request is so that we can accelerate that process so that more are returned, given the current situation. >> thank you, madam chair. >> thank you, madam chair and all of you for being here. let me start with you, jeh johnson. 433 million are slated to go to custom and border patrol. 364 for overtime and new border agents. where is the other $70 million going? >> good questi

i included in the dhs appropriations mark-up last week added language directing dhs to consult transparently with state and local governments and avoid imposing costs on local communities for these types of temporary facilities. and my first question is, prior to dhs making a decision to use the training center for family detention, did you consult with state and local officials? >> i believe we did. that's a standing instruction of mine to my staff, before we make a decision to go to some place for increased detention for processing, we should consult with state and local -- the state and local government. >> and is there a process to have an ongoing briefing with state and local officials in place for things that occur, changes in mission and what happens at this facility? >> yes, i have personally spoken, for example, to the mayor of mcallen, texas, about the situation in the surrounding community and mcallen. i have met with the governor of arizona when i went to nogales, and i suspect i'll be meeting with officials in new mexico tomorrow when i go there. if it's not on my agenda, i'll b

here's a copy of the ad that dhs put out in january 29th. in fact, we wanted an answer from the contractors by february 19th. it said there will be approximately 65,000 children in total. my question is, who knew that there was going to be 65,000? the largest amount that ever came was 5,000. somewhere we pull out this number of 65,000. it happens to be correct. why was the administration surprised? why are we acting surprised now if in january we expected this to happen, and why weren't we prepared, if we expected 65,000, why didn't we do anything to stop this in advance? in your testimony, president talked to the president of mexico last week, and vice president biden just recently, why then, if back in january 29th we anticipated this happening? >> well, first of all, i don't know where that estimate comes from. >> it's in dhs' ad. >> i don't know where the estimate comes from. i don't know who created the 65,000 estimate. in all likelihood, we'll probably exceed that in the rate we're going. we've known this has been a problem since i too

and i think you don't see that when it comes to the dhs. i was dealing with it when i was the homeland security adviser and it wasn't any of those is. it's not because they were not members that didn't care a lot but it was a part-time occupation and that wasn't the focus of the staff were the exclusive focus of the staff or the members and that is an important point by the way. as a result it is the sort of watered-down oversight that you get and i think we've all been there to testify. note that you can get the sort of standard answer without worrying about the follow-up. and that is i think that might be the particular exchange. you are not going to get asked questions. and yes, keep in mind he's our people that the oversight is just one of them and unless it makes itself really the principle and that official is going to get short so there is a cost both to the oversight service of the congress providing the american people. it' >> how would you rate the quality of oversight by the congress at this point? >> they can choose quantity wit

in that case dhs did track down the mother and daughter and because of privacy we never learned whether on they took the daughter away from the mother and put her her in foster care, but now dhs likely going to be getting this case, as well, looking for these people, too, along with the transit police. >> all right, steve keeley, thank you, 6:05, meanwhile, philadelphia police trying to identify substances they found inside an apartment in the city's spring garden section. >> officers were called to the building at ninth and spring garden, just before 6:00 last night. once inside, police found a pressure cooker and some substances growing inside the apartment. but at this point, police say, nothing was illegal. the substances will be sent to crime lab, where experts will determine exactly what was found. >> temple university making test scores or even i guess taking them optional. >> this is interesting. jennifer joyce now live on temple campus with more on what the university is doing, and why, i guess, is the big question, jennifer? >> saying they're academic success can be assess in

>> yes, senator. >> yes. >> yes, sir. >> do dhs employees have the right to communicate with the dhsfice of inspector general? yes. >> yes. >> that's the law, sir. >> finally, will you make sure that that message is sent down the chai yn in your organizatio? >> we'll re-emphasize it. >> thank you. commissioner, this past weekend, a member of congress in oklahoma attempted to visit the site at fort sill. he was refused access. would you comment on that? >> it's a dod facility. i actually couldn't comment. i would not be familiar with it. it would not be under jurisdiction of customs and border protection but i would be happy to work with people to find out what occurred. >> anybody else have any knowledge on that? >> senator, it is a dod facility that is being operated by an hhs grantee. we are making available towards four members of congress but we do seek to get the tours scheduled in advance so we can ensure they are structured in a way that needed tour guides are in place that it is consistent with theca set of responsibilits that the staff at this facility have. >> so actually,

and i think you don't see that when it comes to the dhs. i was dealing with it when i was the homeland security adviser and it wasn't any of those is. it's not because they were not members that didn't care a lot but it was a part-time occupation and that wasn't the focus of the staff were the exclusive focus of the staff or the members and that is an important point by the way. as a result it is the sort of watered-down oversight that you get and i think we've all been there to testify. note that you can get the sort of standard answer without worrying about the follow-up. and that is i think that might be the particular exchange. you are not going to get asked questions. and yes, keep in mind he's our people that the oversight is just one of them and unless it makes itself really the principle and that official is going to get short so there is a cost both to the oversight service of the congress providing the american people. it' >> how would you rate the quality of oversight by the congress at this point? >> they can choose quantity wit

that is a dhs priority or function. [indiscernible] the actual numbers of how many are sent home, i would differ to secretary johnson. >> secretary johnson, do most of the children after adjudication stay in this country? >> up until the recent situation, the average pace at which unaccompanied children were deported was something like 1800 a year. >> and how many stayed? thousands? >> eventually if there is a final order of deportation and they have gone through the process, they should be returned to their home countries. we have done that at a rate of about 1800 a year. part of this request is so that we can accelerate that process so that more are returned, given the current situation. >> i'm going to start with you, jeh johnson. 433 million are slated to go through custom and border control. where is the other 70 million going? >> good question. you can give back to me on that. will they be permanent? >> for overtime and related cost in terms of the actual numbers of hired personnel, i would have to get back to you

this is a threat, the dhs wanted to respond to right away. jim sciutto, cnn, washington. >>> checking our other top stories, dozens of people have been sleeping in a high school parking lot after this massive california wildfire forced them out of their homes. this is called the butts fire, near napa valley and burned at least two homes but hundreds more are still in danger. >> it could be right there in ten minutes from now it will be behind you. >> our house is up there, i have animals up there and my fiance is up there. >> seemed like we were going to be okay, but then it changed, just like that. >> at last check the fire was roughly 30% could be tained, no injuries have been reported. >>> some absolutely frightening video to show you now of a woman plowing her car right into two men at a gas station in texas. this happened after what the men say was an innocent verbal exchange. >> it was like, whoa. you almost hit us, and from there, she started yelling, she was like "if i want to kill you, i'm not going to hit you about a car, i'm going

we're actively working with our colleagues at dhs, department of justice, and other federal agencies through the coordination efforts from the department of defense at joint base san antonio lackland, ventura naval station, ft. sill in oklahoma. we're continuing in our efforts to identify both public and private facilities. it is a complex situation with a number of challenges. we welcome working with the committee and congress in efforts to address it. thank you, and i'll be happy to answer questions. >> thank you, mr. greenberg. and miss palmieri, you're welcome and we welcome your testimony. >> i'm pleased to be here to discuss the department of state's response to the sharp rise in the number of unaccompanied children arriving at our border, with a direct link between this activity and dire economic and social conditions in the region. and what we're doing to further the national security interests of the united states. i appreciate your interests and look forward to working with you on this important issue. the administration is deeply concerned by the substantial increase in th

some people want to modify the law to let dhs ship them back right away. i hear this from the administration, and you may say, secretary johnson, that you're going to be very careful and stuff on this, but that's why we have laws. that's why we set it up this way. i don't know who is coming after you. i don't know how long you're going to be there, and i don't know all the people that work underneath you and how good they are. they may have in their head the best thing is round them up and ship them back. i rely upon health and human services to make sure these kids are protected, and that they have their full legal rights in this country. now, they're supposed to be transferred in 72 hours. now it's what, six or seven days before they get transferred. and now hhs, they don't have the wherewithal to do it, to take care of these kids, the mental health providers, the social workers, child advocates who can look after not rounding them up and ship them back, but the best interests of the child when they arrive here and protecting their rights under u.s. and

i don't see that with the dhs situation. i get it that it's not easy to rectify this problem on we've heard bl the turf issues. there are obviously issues on the hill that my copanelists can speak to more knowledgeably, but you look at the diversity of issues. everything from border patrol to fema, secret service, such a wide range of activities that it's understand able that the oversight not only just pulling together the challenge of pulling together legacy jurisdictions into one or several places, but just the subject matter. they're so diverse. we're not trying to diminish the difficulty of this challenge, but we do want to emphasize the need to meet the challenges. just to tick off some of the issu issues. i can tell you first hand when i was talking to folks about the difficulty of answering the myriad oversight demands. it was a huge drain on resource. a few years ago there were records about hour thistle declined to appear on a subcommittee of aviation, because he said the department didn't believe it was a proper c

>> yes, senator. >> yes. >> yes, sir. >> do dhs employees have the right to communicate with the dhs office of inspector general? >> yes. >> yes. >> yes. >> finally, will you make sure that message is sent down the chain in your organizations? >> we'll re-emphasize it. >> thank you. commissioner, this past weekend, a member of congress in oklahoma attempted to visit the site. he was refused access. would you comment on that? >> it's a dod facility, so i actually could not comment. i wouldn't be familiar with it. and it would not be under the jurisdiction of customs and border protection, but i'd be happy to work with people to find out exactly what occurred. >> all right. anybody else have any knowledge on that? >> senator, it is a dod facility that is being operated by an hhs grantee. we are making available tours for members of congress, but we can ensure they are structured in a way that the needed tour guides are in place and that it is consistent with the sent of responsibilities that the staff at the facility have. >> so actually it's hhs's jurisdiction to make sure you want to

i know that our secretary is in a process of engaging with frontline employees at dhs. members of congress from both sides of the aisle and stakeholders from a broad spectrum of american society. that process is ongoing. no decisions have yet been made in that process. >> the speakers border crisis working group, which i'm a member, recently met with secretary johnson. during that meeting i asked the secretary what would be needed in order to address the surge in those claiming credible fear? secretary johnson indicated that a change in law to strengthen the credible fear standard would be necessary to fix the current six. do you agree that such a fix is needed? secretary johnson then said that while a fix is needed, now is not the appropriate time to fix the credible fear standard. when claims have gone from 5,000 to an estimated 50,000 in a short number of years, and your testimony indicates that those claiming credible fear are part of the surge, why is this not the time to fix this weak standard? >> i'd like to put this issue in a little bit of perspective. at this

more now with former dhs assistant secretary. and secretary, i think the world is seeing this the way it is. but that doesn't really give much information to all of us who are trying to figure out how this happened. what do you think the goal here was of putin and the separatists? >> well, again, it's a little risky to guess, but sure seems this was an accident, trying to go after a military target, hit a plane by accident. again, that's why piecing this together is all the more important, to figure out what the instructions were, was this a mistake or, you know, was this actually a cowardly act to go after a passenger plane, which seems kind of odd. i think the question now is how do we respond from a foreign policy perspective? the -- the bad news is, is it the facts aren't known. the good news is, the act was so horrific and galvanized the world's attention, you think this will make people maybe lean forward a little more on sanctions that might have an impact and give people political courage in europe in particular to take o

there are -- but there's -- you know, these are the types of things that dhs -- the president wants dhs and the attorney general to look at. when i say these types of things, it's, you know, what beyond just making the enforcement of our laws more humane, what is it that you can do proactively in the absence of legislation. >> do you believe -- >> proactively that would aid people who are here. >> do you believe right now that the border is less secure because of this crisis right now, that border patrol agents are being distracted and they can't monitor, for instance, the attempt by drug cartels to smuggle drugs across the border? >> i can't determine, myself, if it is actually less secure. it is certainly -- you know, resources are certainly being strained. we are -- it's true, though i'm not sure if people understand this. that when people from central america come across the border, they're generally looking to be apprehended. it is not a question of us trying to find -- people are coming over the border, coming to us in order to get processed. i don't know that it's quite the situa

the dhs estimate $25 billion. i thought this can't be a good idea.id an analysis and innovation. we did what we now call defender attention approach where we model terrorist behavior. we came up to conclusion it's hard to make a case that it's cost effective. as a partial result of that, the program was cancelled a year later. on by owe terrorism risk assessment we were involved in the first study by the department in particular in the area of formal experts. that possibility of threats and unsuccessful attacks primarily from intelligence agencies is now standard use in dhs and combined in other risk assessment procedures for example chemical and radio logical and nuclear. currently we're working on evaluating advanced methods for radiation detection. we did the scopic radiation portal that showed it was not a good idea to replace all current portals with new ones but perhaps use them in secondary inspection. that is still under investigation. we also look at new alga rhythms. the philosophies behind it is we're very much problem oriented. we're pick

i do not see that with the dhs situation and i get it that it is not easy to rectify this problem. we have heard about the turf issues. there are turf issues in the hills -- in the hill that my co-panelists can speak to. they have such a wide range of activities that it is understandable that the oversight is not only the challenge of pulling together live to see -- legacy jurisdictions but there is the subject matter. we are not trying to diminish the difficulty of this challenge but we do want to emphasize the need to meet the challenge. just to tick off some of the issues. i can tell you firsthand when i house,at -- in the white the difficulty of answering them. oversight demands. telling event. when he got to the point where he said i cannot appear, i have to do my day job and we need to get your shop in order that was the shot across the bow to congress and we hope they heard it. beyond the demands on time there message thatiffuse the executive branch gets from so many different committees of oversight. you are getting -- not getting a message. when you hear a lot of voices yo

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>> in january, 2014 they advertised jobs for dhs agents to deal with an expected 60,000 illegal alien minors coming across. the fact that the obama administration all of a sudden says we were surprised by this is just not true. >> in addition to that, just to add to that, asking the american people for another $3.7 billion to deal with an emergency that they actually could see coming is what i think is difficult. but more than that, i heard today that the white house isn't even backing its own bill because democrats on the hill pushed back against it. now what they're asking for is a clean $4 billion to help deal with the crisis with no policy reform. i think that contributes to people having less confidence in their government. >> i would say that obama has put more resources, more money, more people on that border than any other president. >> to no effect? is the incompetence so great -- >> drug traffickers. >> you have to do more then. that wasn't sufficient. if somebody is bleeding on the operating table, get in, all hands in to stop the bleeding. you don't say i tried now but it

host: about 20 minutes left with former dhs inspector general and works at the aspen institute. nathan is next in south field of, michigan, on our line for democrats. morning. caller: good morning. i just heard something about -- wept to war when -- when bush went to war, we went to find this materia materiel thats know, the mass destruction weapons. now, you know, we didn't find any. now we found some, isis found some materiel. understand. is it possible you could explain findingw they're materiel now when they conned before? -- couldn't before? good question, actually. all i can say is iraq is a large country. course,re efforts, of to hide whatever materiels there husseinve been by the government. there were always suspicions on americanof the government, the british government, others of our intelligence partners that there caches.ll be some and apparently sure enough some have been found. scenario the nightmare is apparently they've gotten into the terrorists' hands. i'm very, very concerned about that.tential for host: nnamdi is in washington, d.c. calling on our line for i

do you think that dhs processes people in the right way. obviously, it's background checks, health checks. there's a responsibility to get unaccompanied kids reunited with family members they may have in this country. or reunited with family members somewhere. they can't all become wards of the state in some way, the processing that is done, do you think it's the right process, or at a policy level should that be changed? >> it's a process required by law. there's a law passed in 2008 that requires us when we identify somebody as an unaccompanied child to turn them over to hhs as you pointed out, and i think that this is a legal requirement, but doing the right things by an unaccompanied child reflects our values as americans, i've spent enough time now in south texas actually talking directly to these kids, and i've spent time with unaccompanied children as young as eight years old, five years old. who have been on a 1,000 mile journey to come to this country. and you can see in their eyes vulnerability and fear that i recognize as a fathe

we talked with the dhs secretary. how concerned should flyers be about what this means about the threat? >> i would be mindful of the fact there is probably increased risk. i don't think it's dramatically different. i wouldn't not fly. the good news here is that the government sharing information with others and other parts of the world is responding to this. >> jim joins us tonight. how are they adhered to? >> good question. they have liaisons at the airports with they can observe, share intelligence and measures they want to be i wemplemented. another question i asked, secretary under george bush was how well do they do this when we make requests like this? he said they want to cooperate. they are a long-term relationship here but one challenge is they don't have the resources at these overseas airports, talking about europe and the middle east here. they don't have resources we have here and that's a challenge and something they have to be conscious of. >> thanks so much for that. let's dig deep we are tom who serv

, dhs continuacy assessed a global threat environment and reevaluates the measures we have to take toomote aviation security. i have directed tsa to implement enhanced security measures in the coming days. at certain overseas airports with direct flights to the united states. it did not specify exactly what security measures, of course. now, abc has reported, you know, this perceived threat that some kind of undetectable explosive is being developed and western operatives are being trained in syria. this explains earlier this year u.s. officials warned about the potential for explosives in shoes, toothpaste tubes and makeup. no word on a specific target or a timeline for this latest threat. remember, just two months after 9/11, of course, prosecutors say the so-called shoe bomber tried to light explosives in his sneakers on a flight to miami before passengers tied him to his seat, and christmas day, 2009, the underwear bomber set himself on fire when his device failed to detonate. the feds have blamed al qaeda in yemen for that attack. that's the same group that they say plotted to ta

this is happening very soon, and according to one dhs official we spoke with, there will be additional inspection of shoes and electronics, additional explosive trace detection machines and in some cases another set of screenings at boarding gates as well as more random checks of passengers, among other security measures, and important to note though that this will not impact any domestic flights and it has nothing to do with the fourth of july weekend, according to officials we've been speaking with. pamela and kate. >> when you travel overseas often times each country has different procedures for their screening. how is the tsa going to manage implementing those measures overseas because you are dealing with different nations? >> that's right. tsa doesn't screen at foreign airports, but what tsa can do is say you cannot fly into the u.s. unless you put these new security measures into place. so we've learned that tsa is working with these specific airports overseas, with the carriers and with the foreign governments to make sure that these new security measures are in place, and if t

in a written statement dhs secretary jay johnson said we are sharing recent and relevant information with our foreign allies and our consulting the aviation industry. these communications are an important part of our commitment to providing our security partners with situational awareness about the current environment and protecting the traveling public. driving the new directive is increasing concern that terrorists from al qaeda and the arabian peninsula are refining bomb designed to avoid detection by current airplane screening methods. >> al qaeda has long looked for vulnerabilities in airport security and in particular finding ways to put together bombs using non-metallic material that can make its way through metal detectors and also trying to hide bombs in body crevices to get through airports. >> aqap master bomb maker ibrahim al asiri. in recent months they have warned that terrorists trained under him are improving designs such as shoe bombs that could fool screening systems. we spoke about the new measures today with former dhs secretary michael chertoff. >> how concerned

. >> dhs did not inform the county and we are somewhat upset about that. >> the chairman said the move came as a surprise. >> i'm concerned, as are other residents, that these children may be housed here and it will be a drain on our educational system and other county services. tothe feds have been trying send the message the borders are not open for a legal immigration. some people are being sent back, but the decision is in the hands of immigration judges. >> if the judge determines they face a credible threat of death upon return to their home country, it is likely the immigration judge will find that person should be granted humane asylum. >> this man says it is setting a bad precedent. >> you have to have sympathy, but i fear this relatively small number of children they have relocated to prince william county is just the tip of the iceberg. >> the prince william county board meets tomorrow. the chairman says they will ask the county executive to investigate. they want to know how many organizations are housing children, how many children there are, and what the process is to sen

i know that our secretary is in a process of engaging with frontline employees at dhs. members of congress from both sides of the aisle and stakeholders from a broad spectrum of american society. that process is ongoing. no decisions have yet been made in that process. >> the speakers border crisis working group, which i'm a member, recently met with secretary johnson. during that meeting i asked the secretary what would be needed in order to address the surge in those claiming credible fear? secretary johnson indicated that a change in law to strengthen the credible fear standard would be necessary to fix the current six. do you agree that such a fix is needed? secretary johnson then said that while a fix is needed, now is not the appropriate time to fix the credible fear standard. when claims have gone from 5,000 to an estimated 50,000 in a short number of years, and your testimony indicates that those claiming credible fear are part of the surge, why is this not the time to fix this weak standard? >> i'd like to put this issue in a little bit of perspective. at this

this is a brand new report from dhs that just came out yesterday from the office of the inspector general. giving us a pretty general overview specifically of what's going on in texas with these illegal immigrant and some the health concerns coming about from it. it's reporting back in del rio, texas, sort of south central texas, that some border agents have been infected with scabies, lies and chicken pox and even worse than that, it says that two border agents are reporting that their children have now been infected with chicken pox just a few days after they had come in contact. 20 to 30 minutes late from el paso. we are getting reports that at those stations two agents believe they have been infected, possibly with tuberculosis. we did get some new numbers, he is telling us 153 unaccompanied children, adults have been treated at el paso hospital for things like lice, scabies, chicken pox. since july, 43 border patrol agents have filed some type of paperwork believing they have been infected with some type of communicable disease. two agents have confirmed they have been treated for ge

republicans are citing a dhs memo.from a i think a lot of it it's close 70% saying it's close to f asylum claims end up being fraudlent. over 50% of children claiming to have atus are found credible claims says another. two o you reconcile those statistics? >> i reconcile them by going through a third party validater that to me is the report that the united nations came up -- they interviewed 50% they felt had a legitimate claim asylum based on the violence issue. legacy for this nation america, l banana republic issue and the corporate influence in that region, that's legacy and we're still dealing with that. is still partause of the argument and the root central america where civil society has broken up and law is arbitrary a. i talked to moms and their fear it is ter there than taking this very dangerous have to take.they i think to recon fig rate how we ourselves in latin america. an open ilding is such concept but i think real investment in the development of those countries and real that ment in a system works and a security system that out. bought those are the root causes. in a k

they need help from state agencies like you mentioned dhs. there are other people. in is where it gets controversial. who simply don't want to pay the water bill. who would rather spend money on cable. that's where the whole debate, you know, comes together. we've got people who can't afford do it. others who are ignoring it. and at end of the day, many believe it's a human rights issue. >> historically in the past haven't there been state agencies who rushed to the aid of some of these folks? >> sure. and a lot of these agencies like dhs have been there in the past and have been available for financial assistance here in the state of michigan for years. unfortunately, it takes a crisis like this one when people simply say, my water is off. i have no money. i need help for them to realize that they can offer them a little bit of financial assistance. it's important know that the water department has said, listen, we're willing to make a deal. if you want to pay set up a payment plan or pay a portion of your water bill, we'll turn you back on. you simply can't ignore

many, many years of hearings on the japantown better neighborhood plan that was moderator into the dhs which is a culture document that document i think forms the basis for other discussions going on in the lgbt word and in the latino community and the filipino community. so i hope those things will continue and the planning commission will continue to support the work of the historic preservation commission. lastly i want to thank the planning staff they do a tremendous amount of work and this commission couldn't well, i think we could get along with all the stuff we're going i want to thank the staff for the support i've received over the years >> thank you commissioner sugaya. >> commissioner fong. >> i'd like to offer my thank you and congratulations. i don't think this commission is necessarily supposed to agree the way we're set up we're supposed to offer views i appreciate you and have learned a lot from you i've learned different aspects and comment on your line of questioning sometimes, it's very thorough and unique from a different prospective and our attention to daily it's