the dhs looks in a different mode. that attention we need to be conscious of and make sure that we accept the adequate provisions for a. >> we know russia's interference throughout europe is with more and more elections coming up. how much information does the dhs share with foreign allies and other countries? how closely do we work with them? >> it is difficult to quantify how much information we share, i know that over the last year or so, with various campaigns happening in europe in france and germany, we have relationships where we can share technical indicators of a known command and control russian adversaries. we can help them, share what we know, they show what they know. i do feel as if it is a good relationship in terms of the engagement. >> as far as rhode island, you may have said this in your opening statement. how much cooperation you get among the states in far -- insomuch as the state. >> the national secretary of state provides excellent coming together in a bipartisan basis. we can have these convers

dhs does support. identifying specific act as whether it is twitter handles or whatever it is and disrupting those i give it is. that's only part of the problem, taking down the disruptive act vividly because frankly with this information the way to counter that is to shine light on the l activity. what we are doing working with others in the state department, working with the fbi is to build a greater understanding of awareness of what their activities are, engaging traditional media and sharing findings and trends. how do we raise awareness across the american public. this is one of those cases that it's different from traditional cyber security. what we are aiming for is resilience so we can take a look and keep going. this information is completely different. the objective is anti-fragility. like resilience where you want to keep moving, you want to come back stronger when you learn from the experience and we closed out that avenue of influence. that is what we are aiming for and are doing a good b

president napolitano, when you were secretary of dhs, first of all, should dhs have been created? was it the right thing to do? >> guest: you know, i think it was the right thing to do, and it was the right thing to do for a variety of reasons. the most important of which was to put under one roof various departments that were spread throughout the federal government to facilitate effective communication and the more efficient, you know, management of, you know, our security apparatus. so within the department of home security you have land borders, seaboarders, air borders, air travel, you have disaster response, fema, you have cybersecurity, you have an intelligence and analysis functions, and i think it does make sense that there would be one department in which all of these functions are housed. >> host: you were the first democratic secretary of dhs following the bush administration. really early on in dhs, has it gelled more than it was gelled in the early days? >> guest: so i think that the department is still gelling. it takes a while. i mean, there are 23 different agenci

why did dhs withhold this informati information? when we were able to read about it when doj released it in the indictment statement? >> i hate to say that's a nuanced answer because nuance is our enemy here. the distinction is the fbi provided investigators to special counsel mueller's investigation. those investigators have focused on developing the case against russian operatives. their information as a result of the investigation stays within the casebuilding that special counsel mueller has developed. that has not crossed over the firewall, as it is, into the rest of the administration. so there were details within that indictment that i had not seen before. now, that is not to say that if they had found something about an imminent attack that they wouldn't have shared, because they would have. >> so your department was kept out of the loop by the department of justice? >> by special counsel mueller's investigation, they had an investigation to conduct on past activities. i had information sufficient to work with various secret

dhs has been supportive in providing resources to us. one of the things that vermont has been doing since the fall of 2016 is a weekly cyber hygiene scan where they take a look at us every week and provider report to see what they find. they have other resources as ,ell, penetration testing vulnerability assessments, and many other projects as well. they are providing these at no cost to the states. it is lost in the discussion, say they, i would elections community is in far better shape than it was in 2016. susan: we have six minutes left. couple of elements, the voter registration side of things. reid: then the voter tabulation side, where you are counting the votes in deciding who won. the voter registration side that has been vulnerable to these attacks and scans from russia and outside actors. how concerned are you that those scans, attacks might impact the voter tabulation side. can someone go in and change the numbers in an election? jim: as far as votes, you mean? reid: yeah. get i don't think they can in and change the votes th

our partners range from dhs and the fbi to the u.s. postal service and dod, relying on the eac to provide the knowledge about how elections work and a clear line of communication to those in the field to administer the vote. this is not new to those election officials and administered of staff members. that said, you can see from this diagram it is not our only response billy. the work described for the election officials encompasses everything from the ada compliance and voter registration to management and human resources. this is why it's so vital that congress and federal agencies, especially the eac provide election ministry does with resources and tools they need to help succeed. the establishment of election systems as part of the nations critical infrastructure and it's one way the federal government thought to improve the mechanisms it uses to accomplish this goal. following secretary johnson's critical announcement the eac worked actively to provide state and local officials with the voice of the table during discussions abou

i see, you know, what you are doing with dhs. i see what the justice department announced just last night. is that a whole of government response? if so, where are the instructions on that coming from? >> so it is. there is a whole of government effort afoot. there's -- >> is there someone heading that up in the white house? >> yeah, i mean, look, it comes from the national security advisor, the cybersecurity is a top priority for this administration. there's an executive order released last year, 13-800 that reinforces and re-emphasizes our approach to cybersecurity. >> is there a whole government response specifically though to election security? >> yeah, again, i work every day, my team at the operational level works every day with the fbi, with the intelligence community, with state and local officials. there is a whole of government effort. we are -- to the broader point of coordination, i have -- you know, this is my second time in government, back in the bush years, i was dhs as well. i have never seen the level of coopera

johnson was cre former dhs secretary. elections are predominantly state and local matters and the notion that he is a federal cabinet level official was supposed to decide to inject himself into election i don't think was fair but there was a decision made to declare our infrastructure a critical infrastructure. can any of you address why the decision was not made them fall but it was made in january of 2017? not all at once. i will just add that the way that i look at the infrastructure it is a national critical function. it is essential to the functioning of the government and the department of homeland security will continue to support state and local governments. i guess the reason i will start this off my wish, i guess that the other 364 days will be about who should be elected. i would like this to be the one day that we make sure the person that is elected service so we haven't had hearings about with president trump discussed with vladimir putin just like we had hearings about with president obama discussed with v

obviously dhs has and working closely with you another states. when i talk to people at dhs and the state level, they say they we are not seeing white house leadership on the issue. do you think that needs to also be there or is it sufficient to have these folks at dhs? jim: all these federal agencies report to the president. yes, i do think the president and the administration have to take a leadership role in this. in all the discussions we have had with dhs and the fbi over the last two years, one of the things that has become clear to us is we have all these agencies, the intelligence communities that are united, unanimous that the russians attacked us, that the russians will attack us again. we have to be able to work together. unfortunately the person at the top has not been supportive and has sent mixed messages, and that makes it difficult on us as secretaries. susan: this week, a democratic and republican member of the house sent a letter to the president suggesting the creation of an election securities coordinator, or in washington par

after having previously served as assistant secretary for infrastructure protection before joining dhs director cybersecurity policy where he love the company's work in cybersecurity and technology issues. the agency has the immense oresponsibility to protect the critical infrastructure from cyberthreats whether powerplants health care and leading important work on how to make elections they thank you for being here mr. undersecretary after meeting in helsinki with putin the president said he is protecting elections to stand up for us. do you agree with that? >> absolutely. with the intelligence community assessment puts the blame squarely on russia. and in my organization i have a responsibility to support state and local officials. and we are working very closely with state and local officials att, this point through the infrastructure with all 50 states to provide a range of technical services to remote scanning capabilities and we provide information but also trainings through those platforms and incident response. >> so much of that comes from the white house? >> we need to be cle

the dhs is working with the states.ow much would you assess in your reporting about the concerns going into this, how much progress we have made? >> progress have been -- has been slow. but the progress is happening especially at the margins. some of the older machines are being replaced in a lot of states. states are sort of on notice that this no paper trail approach is really not going to be acceptable or sustainable in the long run. i think we face a fascinating juxtaposition. first of all, we're are the only western democracy in the world that doesn't have a centralized election hub. it's not just that we have 51 different jurisdictions operating elections. the state ofhat, wisconsin has hundreds of administrators responsible for all of this. there is a strength and a weakness in that. all of those disparate symptoms -- systems mean that someone who is trying to hack in doesn't have one place, they have got to ,e present in 3000 places especially when the machines are not connected to the internet. the weakness is

we have increase d dhs offered variety of services. our suite of services will continue to mature as the requirements identified by our election stakeholders mature. we understand the only way to deliver a resill gent system is to work collaboratively with the officials running the front lines. we've been in a continuing effort through an elections task force. this brings tore the election nist, the fbi, intelligence community and dod. it's to ensure that information is actual and timely shared broadly across the sector. the two partners sitting at the table with me now have been invaluable resources for dhs, as we work to develop and grow the maturity of this sector. to utilize the nist framework to further empower officials to better secure the systems. they will continue to coordinate state and local officials to ensure the security of our election infrastructure. malicious cyberactors can come from anywhere. we're committed to ensuring a coordinated response from all levels of government. we understand the only way to do this is wo

one --dash dhs designated the election infrastructure as critical. so now we are in the first election series since that designation was made and the last hearing we heard with this designation to affect information sharing between state and local federal littl little -- federal governments to hear about the other aspects of that designation. which is the formalization of information sharing and collaboration between private entities and the federal government through the sector coordinating council. more recently flight 2018 spending bill congress appropriated $380 million to the u.s. election agency to have them enhance that infrastructure in 49 states and territories have requested $350 million of that money and in many cases have already received the money they asked for. want to find out about the tools available that the federal government can provide officials with information sharing that is occurring and should occur between state and federal and local officials. and learn more what we might do to encourage cybersecurity best practices. also

this is not simply about cpp or dhs. it's the community at large that can benefit from the assistance of guard. >> i also want to follow up on general mcguire. you talked about the potential to do more air support. i know it's better to do real missions then tried to create training opportunities. i think that's a tremendous training opportunity. what's the process to increase the capacity in these areas? is that happening collaboratively? does cdp need to make a request? how does that work. >> to access the training assets you need to come down like any other mission requests. if they make that request to dhs headquarters that comes down is a validated mission we would have the cruise launch the additional arteries on the border. and to support them just as we are with the rc 26. >> are there conversations going on about that request? >> we have been asking for that the problem is always the confusion that were not asking to pull people back, were trying to use assets we presently use for training with her folks to keep

we saw dhs and fbi issue a technical alert protect against russian activity with the critical infrastructure is provided actor's efforts to prevent true vision into different sectors including energy and water and manufacturing. so the aggression is widespread against multiple sectors and multiple types of networks so that call to attention and wasn't really aimed at the government that all of us because it really does require a whole country to be aware of what we are facing to combat that. >> we will get back to that but i want jason to come in for a second so over the horizon research so give us the cyberweather forecast that is the most significant threat of the future? >> so one of the trends of cybersecurity is 70 or 80% of the attacks are social engineering that are meant to manipulate the behavior of users and the most common form is due to t2 it is boring but it is the largest scale of the attacks but on the technology side over the next five or ten years those defenses and the threats themselves with social engineering is becoming more sophisticated. so one type of advance we can d

we have talked to secretary nielsen from dhs and received a tremendous amount of feedback as well. be able to see improvements, and we do believe the coordinating councils can share a lot of that information with other states and with the federal government. but there are simple things that can be in place that we feel like do not usurp the authority of the states to run their own elections. but do give us a secure elections system for the future. the issue is not so much 2020. we're all watching. what will the elections be like 20 years from now? will we still have a process in place of protect the elections when our guard is down? idea to be is a wise able to continue that ongoing cooperation and communication, so when issues are discovered, they can be shared state to state quickly and to the federal government to be able to make sure we can protect our elections to make the message is possible. you for the, thank invitation again to join us conversation, if only for a brief moment. thank you for holding this hearing because this will be important that we get a bill across the f

operations in texas and arizona specifically, the duties of the national guard efforts between the dhs and the dod physically want to know how is it going and what else can we do to support the mission and what barriers remain. i want to thank the witnesses for their time and with that i will yield to the gentleman from texas. >> thank you for holding this hearing. we will discuss the most recent deployment to southern border. as i stated this is a horrendous idea. as with any of the justifications for the misguided border security actions context and strategy are lacking. it isn't a lawless war zone and with chaos we have seen has been created by this administration. my district is in the rio grande valley one of the highest sectors along the border that has the second-largest number and also a large contingent of the department of safety personnel assisting the border patrol and i know our local law-enforcement officials were engaged in keeping them secure along the stretch of the border in addition to the national natl guard is an ongoing border security mission ever since the forme

we also saw the dhs and fbi this year issued technical alert so that defenders could protect against russian activity in our critical infrastructure system. this describes russian cyber actors efforts to infiltrate and conduct intrusions into different sect jars of our critical infrastructure including energy, water and manufacturing. so the aggression is widespread. it is against multiple sectors. it is against multiple types of networks and so i think that calls to attention that you hurt the dni give as i said it wasn't just aimed at the government. it was really aimed at all of us because it really does require not only a hole of government but a whole hole of country effort to be aware of what we are facing. >> i want to get back to that but i want to let jason come in here for a second. jason your agency does over the horizon research. you are focused more on what's coming than the here and now. get the say cyber weather forecast and what you see is shaping up to be the most significantt threat in the futue and what are you doing to counter at? >> one of the trends in cyber sec

i've also heard it from your colleagues at dhs. this is the idea that voter confidence is a risk that's really hard to mitigate. i've heard this described as the biggest election security challenge that we face. when the president contradicts himself on the russia threat, how does that affect voter confidence. >> well, look, i think the bigger issue is voter -- the intelligence community assessment's very clear. the president has supported the ica and endorses the results -- or the findings. >> back and forth on that. >> but, look, he is -- look, i am not -- i take the president at his word. there's a headline -- >> is that what you tell the people you're advising out in the states when the president says these things? what do you tell them? >> here's what i tell the states. we know we have a risk. we know there's a threat. let's work together to close out the risk. i live in the operational space. that's where i have to get my job done. not in the headlines, in the operational space. when i go out and meet with secretaries of stat

as you are aware dhs offers a variety of free services to state and local officials including on-site assessments like risk and vulnerability assessments which are in-depth penetration tests of the systems and so states are -- and localities are able to use these services as they see fit. in addition we offer -- >> what bothers me is in your statement is the word "offered." the ones who aren't asking for it may be the ones who need it. >> senator, i understand your point. i would also add that our offering aren't the only offerings that states are taking advantage of. we have seen as we have met with state and local officials that state services, use of the national guard as well as private sector partners are being used in these same ways with the services that we offer. so my experience is that the states are taking this seriously, engaging and certainly testing like penetration testing, red team testing is a value and many states are doing that in some way within their jurisdiction. >> do you have an overall assessment of how secure the american voting system is going into 2018, wh

you know, there's lots of different calls to reorganize dhs, reorganize i.c.e. and all of those are potentially downstream, but they need to focus on fixing this one problem, which is that children need to be reunited with their parent if they were taken at the border. >> i just want to put a fine point on it, i think what is also being expose here is government incompetency. clearly they don't seem to have the tools or the will or the competence to be able to accomplish this task or otherwise the numbers would be going in the reverse direction. so this is a clear competency test of government functioning. >> that's precisely what i was going to point out. david, you're reading my mind. >> sorry. >> no, no, i appreciate it. let me just stay with you, because let's totally switch gears, because we're looking ahead to this meeting with president trump and vladimir putin, we have topics of discussion, ukraine, syria and election meddling. these two are meeting in about two weeks from now. so in terms of raising election meddling, it's something the administration c

and foremost we been on the front lines trying to boast state and local infrastructure and by 2017 dhs visited our electoral systems as critical infrastructure and that designation is supported to cyber security related purposes and one election officials upon request would be a top priority for the receipt of dhs services and election infrastructure would receive the benefit of various domestic and international cyber security protections and moreover a department of homeland security has worked to feed classified and unclassified cyber security risks information with state and local officials and dhs has formed several working groups and tasks force to develop plans for election infrastructure security, working not only with state and local election officials but also the private sector to help generate best practices and solutions. the department has continued to work to strengthen partnerships with state and local election officials and nevertheless there constrained by states and this partnerships are completely voluntary and that puts the onus upon the states to seek help from an

we at dhs for tent ten known or suspected terrorists in this country a day.hey are very active. >> bret: ten a day trying to get in. >> yes. >> bret: how many attacks do you think dhs and fbi have stopped since president trump has been in office? >> it's tough to quantify. the myriad is what i would say in conjunction with her international partners. some could have been in the homeland. some are interests abroad. we work as a community now. we have about 2,000 people from dhs abroad for just that reason, to make sure that we are connecting the dots and we are also moving towards the national bedding center, which we are excited about because that will bring to bear all the usg has two make sure we have the information to fight the terrorists. >> bret: this administration does a lot and when week, sometimes fridays feel like a dog year for monday's, but a few months ago "the new york times" had details of a cabinet meeting where you were said to be the target of the president's anger. a lengthy tirade about securing the border. since you've been sworn into th

president napolitano when you remember secretary of dhs first to dhs has been created was it the righthink it was the right thing to do, and it was the right thing to do for a variety of reasons. the most important of which was -- to put under one roof various departments that were spread throughout the federal government and facilitate effective communication and a the more efficient -- management of, you know, our security apparatus so within the department of homeland security, you have land borders, seaboarders, air borders, air travel, you have disaster response, fema. you have cybersecurity. you have an intelligence and analysis functions. and i think it does make sense that there would one department in which all of these functions are housed. >> you were the first democratic secretary of dhs following the the bush administration. really early on in dhs, has it gelled more than it was gelled in early days? >> so i think that the department is still gelling it takes a while, i mean, there are 23 different agencies that will combine when they create a dhs. you know people say it i

in 2017, children were referred to our care from dhs. the average length of stay there in our care was 41 days. as of this morning, hhs has 11,316 miners in our care. overall, releases and the majority of our care are typically parents are close relatives. 9% of those children were released -- 49% were released to a parent. 10% released to a distant relative like a cousin or family friend. since the president's executive order, the secretary of hhs has erected all reasonable actions to comply with court orders including we education of members,with eligible which is parents from home they were separated by the department of homeland security and prioritize che -- child safety. i'm june 22, hhs secretary directed office of the assistant secretary for preparedness and response to help work with dhs and its operating divisions to reunified children with class members. the key steps in that plan for numberg custody include one, identifying the parents location. number two confirming no cause to doubt parentage. number three, reviewing crimin

kirstjen nielsen told you what dhs is doing. defense is doing that. all of our agencies are engaged in that. this is going to continue to ramp up and it involves not just tampering with the election, but it involves putting the right defenses in place, the right strategies in place in terms of how to retaliate if necessary. it's clearly one of our top priorities. >> last week you said russia and other actors were exploring vulnerabilities in critical infrastructure and trying to infiltrate energy, water, nuclear and manufacturing sectors. these actions are persistent. they are pervasive. and they are meant to undermine america's democracy. have they succeeded? have you found penetrations in areas? >> well, sure. i mean, we see -- all you have to do is pick up the paper and see who was the latest hack, successful hack. >> this is from criminal syndicates or foreign actors? >> from any number -- attribution is the problem we have. you're not lining up tanks and planes and see where the enemy is. you don't know exactly where it's coming from. we have cap

are you concerned that the fcc and dhs could work at cross purposes which may undermine cyber security? >> that is a great question, cyber security is a critical issue and it seems like every week there is a new story that draws our attention to that fact. i am happy to report that the last year and a half we have had a close productive relationship with the department of homeland security, in fact this morning i spoke with dhs about cyber security issues that have popped up. we certainly want to make sure we are on the same page there. our role under current law is to act in more of a consultative fashion with dhs who has the lead in terms of cyber security. should congress see fit to change the law, the only arguable portion would be section 1, which doesn't give us operative support there. as well as section 22. should congress change the law we would dutifully administer it to make sure our networks were secured. in time we will work collaboratively with dhs and other federal partners including the intelligence committee. >> and i can't get to questions in here but i'm going to try

according to dhs, some of the remaining adults are ineligible because they have criminal records. more than 400 are ineligible because they've been deported out of the country. dhs said 120 parents chose not to be reunited with their children before returning to their home country. the aclu is pushing back on that claim and argued in court filings this week that some of the parents either misunderstood or were misled by the government and never meant to leave their children in the u.s. the former i.c.e. director, tom homan argues that some of these parents leaving these kids here were part of their goal aall along. >> some of these people chose to leave the united states without their children because they basically got what they wanted. they got their child here to the united states to live with relatives, get an american education, take advantage of the social system and be the next daca applicant in 10 years. >> reporter: dhs says they will continue to make every effort to reunify the remaining adults and children who are eligible or find family members who can act as guardians

we work with fbi, dhs, our intelligence communities and we worked with all 50 states. it's ongoing, it's going to have to keep on going right up until the day of the auction. >> what you're hearing back from congress and others is your sense of, bipartisan basis, people in washington think the work you're doing is sufficient. >> and think were seeing that. republicans are teeing up with democrats both in the senate and house to ensure. >> this would certainly be a key. what really worries you most when you think about scenarios that might unfold based on the unrivaled exposure you have on the threats that the country faces. what are the things that really keep you up at night. do you ever sleep? >> restless sleep sometimes. when you think about 911, two planes flying into another, if either one of those planes for all three of them had any kind of weapon of mass destruction we would be talking about depths in the 300,000 or 3 million or more. preventing proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, particularly in groups, terrorist groups under any state control have a

according to dhs, some of the remaining adults are ineligible because they have criminal records. more than 400 are ineligible because they've been deported out of the country. dhs said 120 parents chose not to be reunited with their children before returning to their home country. the aclu is pushing back on that claim and argued in court filings this week that some of the parents either misunderstood or were misled by the government and never meant to leave their children in the u.s. the former i.c.e. director, tom homan argues that some of these parents leaving these kids here were part of their goal aall along. >> some of these people chose to leave the united states without their children because they basically got what they wanted. they got their child here to the united states to live with relatives, get an american education, take advantage of the social system and be the next daca applicant in 10 years. >> reporter: dhs says they will continue to make every effort to reunify the remaining adults and children who are eligible or find family members who can act as guardians

but some like jay joeh johnson, former dhs, as you know, ran dhs under president obama said, that's astake. do you agree with your fellow democrats who say, abolish i.c.e.? >> well, i voted against i.c.e. from the beginning, so you can count me a critic from day one. but the reality of the situation is, to solve this problem, the problem is in the white house. >> so are they wrong then, governor? are they wrong then about abolishing i.c.e., because what jeh johnson said, let me read part of it in "the washington post" this weekend, he said, the outright abolition of i.c.e. would compromise public safety. that's his argument. he goes on to say, calls to abolish i.c.e. only serve to sew even greater division in the american public and in its political leadership, damaging any remaining prospect of bipartisan immigration reform. do you think hays right? does he have a point or is part of the solution, as some of your fellow democrats are calling for, to just abolish i.c.e. altogether? >> well, here's what i think. i think we have to solve this problem. we have to stop this inhumane treat

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companies received security scans from dhs. it plans to provide on-site risk assessment to all states that request it. so far, 18 states have requested this assessment. a new pilot program released rapid response capabilities on election day and on-site security support was provided. in march 2018, congress provided the election assistance commission with 300 $80 million in funding for election assistance grants to date. these are steps we have taken to prevent it, steps we have taken because we see the threat there. reporter: i want to clarify what you just said. dan coats said the threat is still ongoing from russia. does this white house believe that currently, this threat is still ongoing? certainly, we believe the threat still exists, which is why we are taking steps to prevent it again. he wouldn't go through that link the process if you aren't. does the president stand by all his other public comments, including the interview criticizing theresa may's handling of the brexit negotiations? that russia controlled germany ov

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dhs the working to build relationships, try to increase communication between dhs which is responsible for election infrastructure and the state-level officials. it seems there's been progress made. there is still concern that the progress may not be adequate across the board. >> talking about this investigation or effort by the russians, seeming like an octopus with different arms. there was the effort to steal the information. one unit working on that. another unit working on disseminating it. there was a social media campaign. given the breadth of it and given that 12 members of the russian intelligence service have just been named, is there a way for putin to say he knew nothing about this? >> first, with regard to the conversation of betsy, the university of pittsburgh cyber institute has a blue ribbon commission where we are working to protect pennsylvania elections. with regard to your question about what putin knows or doesn't know, i agree with the other commentators that it's fair to infer that other shoes will drop. i agree with the deputy attorney general who is a good and

i think where i think things got off track both as a combination of the 1997 flora settlement and dhsn't ready to go with implementing the zero tolerance policy and capitol hill really needed to act to make sure we have the right number of judges and resources that were available to go and implement this policy. as we look teenager actual policy here of the zero tolerance policy at the border, this is something 63% of americans support -- >> yoo want to look at the policy yet. my question to you, jason was about the process of reuniting them. i understand we can get into a policy discussion in a second. what gives you confidence -- given they did this as you've just pointed out in such an incompetent manner, how do you know they can reunite the parents and kids? >> because i think president trump has sent a pretty strong signal and the courts have sent a strong signal this needs to be done. >> how are they going to do it? there's no tracking device, they are not giving us real numbers. what makes you think they know where the parents are and an 18-month-old child can tell a federal of

look what happened down in florida in one area of one county,a, dhs. that threw us into a constitutional crisis. to find out the one state on old and electoral vote. >> control of the senate or the house. >> we are not looking at the presidential here but we will be. so we have to to put everything we can into it. we are providing grants and looking at those who provide the machines in trying to back it up with paper so we have redundancy. we need to throw everything added to ensure to the american people we are doing everything possible to make it a fair election. >> as you look at the progress we aress making do you feel on e whole we are on track to have a safe and secure election? >> i think in a bipartisan way in the house and the senate received the executive branch stepping up big time. we see the states being worn now reaching out for help and we have to ensure we do everything we can to ensure public that they are being held accountable. >> i know there've been some reports of different independent groups modern readiness and there seems to be

according to dhs, 120 parents chose not to be reunited with their children before returning home.g, lawyers with the aclu argued some of those parents either misunderstood or were misled and never meant to leave their children in the u.s. and aquatic lawmakers are suggesting some parents and children may never be reunited. in a statement - - said in part, there appears to be no plan to reunite children with parents where already been deported and no guidelines as to how this administration is deciding who is eligible and who is not.dhs says it will continue to make every effort to reunify the remaining adults and children who are eligible or find family members who can act as guardians while the court process plays out. so this initial court battle may be over but this issue is far from being settled. >>eric: absolutely not. >>alicia: a historic move by pope francis stripping the former archbishop of washington d.c. of his title under sex abuse allegations against him. details next. when it's too cold for camping, we go camping. when it's too hot to work, we work. too wet to keep

they got in touch with dhs. it's 32 pages long. it's essentially a security background check and it is almost impossible for someone who just got out of detention to figure out you or i could have trouble doing it. she knows he is here on the under 5, the government asked the judge to provide a list of all 101 kids under the age of 5 in hhs. they want to know where their parents are. >> that is the part that the government is. some are detained. some have been deported. some set out, set free because they're on bond. the aclu said if you can get us that list, we'll help find the parents the government can do it the phone calls that were supposed to happen yesterday. we have heard it is an imperfect system. even those that had one or two phone calls since they were deta detained, they're five, seven minutes long the parents are crying the kids are crying, it's almost impossible to communicate. >> 32 pages to try to get your child back. miguel marquez outside that center there in brownsville. >>> president trump will be at the nato s