it remains a dhs mission. and the role we play, that we very clearly defined in all of our engagements, as well as the memorandum of understanding with dhs, is that we provide civil support to civil authorities in those cases, in those areas, where the needs exceed dhs capability in unique skills. >> did you want to add? >> one point that ranking member richmond brought up. often there is frustration because we go through exercises to figure out details of relationships. these elections gave us a real-world platform. we started working out these things. we had a meeting yesterday where we sat down. there isn't always concurrence on a point of view. the good news is we are taking opportunities in real-world scenario as opposed to theoretical war game. we are gaining a lot of ground. actually, there was a discussion about letting our staffs come together and make out the equivalent of a three-ring binder and figure out so we can move fast with we think it's scenario b, so we can get them faster in their lane, th

dhs and d.o.d. worked together in the weeks leading up to the election to remove any legal or operational obstacles that would prevent timely defense support of civil authorities in the case of a cyber incident targeting our elections that exceeded dhs's asset response capabilities. i was also pleased the d.o.d. was able to work with national guard personnel activated under state active duty status including some of our action network defenders in rhode island in order to share sensitive intelligence on election day. the efforts of both of those departments, thoet those departments paid off and don't to their work and the diligence of local election officials last week's voting went off without any major cyber security incident. but we cannot let the success blind us to the tremendous challenges that remain ahead. as highlighted in the recent cyber strategies that have come out of dhs, d.o.d. and the white house, our adversaries continue to look it for ways to gain an advantage by exploiting our vul

we work through dhs on all of our support. >> to add to that, dhs has the mission? dod is supporting dhs in the form of defense and civil authorities? we are working very closely with dhs and dhs comes to us if we have needs that are beyond what they can, within their own capabilities, employee. if we were to employ them it would be through dhs authorities. >> okay, i very much appreciate that clarification. >> thank you. lieutenant general, you answered about the connection between organizations. let me focus on the funding aspect. with respect to securing civilian cyberspace, the role of civilian agencies and the military is well-defined. congress has decided that outside of dhs and not the armed services are the intelligence community are these efforts. the questions about funding -- right now dod has a a billion- dollar budget for cyber given dhs has a $1 billion for political infrastructure. considering that 80% of critical infrastructure is privately owned, how do we balance that and at what level would you say that a mission like that should be funded? that i

dod is supporting dhs in the form of defense support to civil authorities to dhs' authorities. so again when working very close with dhs. dhs comes to us if it got needs that are beyond what they can within the own capability sets of welcome but if or to were to employ that it would be through dhs authority. >> i very much appreciate the clarification. thank you. i yield back. >> mr. richmond. >> thank you. lieutenant general shwedo, you answered pretty much my first question about collaboration between organizations, so let me focus for a moment on the funding aspect. with respect to securing civilian cyberspace, the role of civilian agencies in military is well-defined. congress has decided that outside of national emergencies dhs and not the armed services or the intelligence community should leave these efforts. the question is about funding. right now dod has an $8 billion budget for cyber, given dhs has basically $1 billion for critical infrastructure. considering that, 85% of critical infrastructure is privately owned, how do we balance that and at what level would you s

dhs did not have those mechanisms. would probably did not understand there was such a thing as the election assistance commission. there was not a strong relationship between the two. now, we have governance mechanisms, which is a bad bureaucracy way of saying we all work together closely now. two years ago, we did not. we had communications protocol. if i need to get information to a single state, i can do it quickly. if it is classified, if they have a clearance, we can get it to them. if it is actionable, we will deal with it later. we will get the information to them. we are providing assistance across the board. we have done about 35 vulnerability assessments for large jurisdiction states and counties. that is compared to about one prior to the 2016 election. again, there was not a strong relationship. i think the two most significant areas of progress, one is information sharing and analysis sensors -- centers exist so network defenders and security officials can share information on current threats. as of februa

we looked at what dhs and the fbi were zoig doing at the fede level. and we wanted to offer an alternative to the dominant narratives that i think have not fully reflected what has been going on, and really painted a very dark picture of the state of security of our elections. you know, it seems that the overall sentiment was that our elections were fundamentally insecure and unreliable, which i think is not true. that nothing is being done about this. which again just didn't fit with the data that we were finding. and finally that paper ballots are the only solution. paper ballots have many wonderful qualities but they also have many drawbacks and there is a reason that we adopted digitized voting both to improve access to the vote and to the franchise, to help to reduce voter error, and discarded votes, and also to allow voters with disabilities to access the polls. so we wanted to break down the risk to better understand the state of play as we go into 2018, and that's the first page of the graphic that you see, our score card. we wanted to look at

the dhs strategy kind of works around five pillars. first is identify risk. that's an important element i will come back to a couple times. second is reduce vulnerabilities. third is reduce threat. the fourth is mitigate consequences. the final is enable a more effective cybersecurity ecosystem. what does that mean? before unpacking that, which probably means given time i won't unpack all that, let me tell you the way i think about the world and dhs in particular. to do that, i work through where we have been to get to where we are to inform where we're going. some of this is technical. but a lot of it is psychological as well. so hop into the time machine with me. let's go back to 1957. the russians launch sputnik into low earth orbit, beating the united states to space. not just in terms of putting the satellite up there, but actually doing it quite a bit bigger than we would have done it. it was a heavier satellite than we were contemplating at the time. what that did is a couple things. one, the realization i think dawned we had been beaten in what we tho

that shows the commitment not just dhs. they are seeing this as a team sport. the second, significant amount of progress we made. is in terms of the albert sensor. they push out to state partners. the multistate. and set other information sharing center. it was less than 30% of state election officials. as of today in the run-up from the election. in three weeks. over 92 percent. a hundred% as the stretch goal. what that gets us is the ability to push the same indicators that protect federal at networks out to state networks. that is a significant amount of progress. and were when i can stop there. we are going to continue to increase these partnerships and the ability of technical resources but whether a state or local official takes a dhs service as long as they take some service that's what matters. it is contributing to the overall network. there is some reporting yesterday. they had been there with an uptick of activity. what we are getting right now, is an increase in reporting from our state and local partners to dhs. two years ago, there was no flow of

dhs has done a good job of getting that information out. security, polling places, public relations, these are just some of the jobs these folks do on a daily basis. so i cannot talk about the election security veto, because i cannot get the volume to go. getideo, because i cannot the volume to go, but go to our website to check out that video and look to see what our agency does. i love the agency, it's an agency that does a lot with a little, and the staff is the together a great video to highlight some of the things that we actually do. fundsms of the half the -- the help america vote act money wast of that distributed within two to three months, all of it went out within five months. july, all that money has been distributed to the states for affects on the congresstion and designated that this money could be spent for five years. meaning they could spend it up until 2023. it was put into the first title of the help america vote act to allow states to have flexibility on what they could spend it on. a piece of skin in the game by saying

tripp: because dhs doesn't know where the person is. justice sotomayor: let's go to release provision. mr. tripp: right. justice sotomayor: paragraph one is an entire paragraph. it describes a type of alien and an alien who's picked up at a particular time. so if the statute intended this lack of authority to kick in, if the alien only met a through d, why doesn't the statute say that? mr. tripp: well, i guess -- justice sotomayor: why doesn't it say paragraph one, a through d? mr. tripp: a couple responses. i think those are the only portions of the statute that describe -- that actually describe the alien. the phrase "when the alien is released" doesn't describe him. it takes as a given that he's already been fully described. justice sotomayor: it describes the type of alien we're talking about. mr. tripp: i don't think -- justice sotomayor: it describes the person who's subject to this provision. mr. tripp: i don't think that's right because it says when -- that might be right if it said something like the secretary shall take into c

that was formed by working with dhs. in his role he's helped us create new relationships with dhs and financial institutions so collectively we can go after these threats. the way we've learned to work together is something we're going to carry over to the department of energy so we can do the same thing with critical fru infrastructure. we know there has to be a support role. by volume we have more resources and more skills. we're creating those relationships there and with the fbi. >> thank you, mr. secretary. sandra irwin, space news. back to the topic of the space development agency, which you've been putting a lot of time and effort into thinking through this. what are you thoughts about -- how much change is it actually going to bring when you think about all the legacy equipment that most of d.o.d. has, that's where most of the money is? how can you change all that existing infrastructure? wouldn't it take a lot of years and money to do that? thanks. >> i feel i want to go back and forth with you on this one a lit

they're just not utilizing dhs services. i think that pretty much cove s covers -- >> okay, yeah. that's a great overview. i'm full of questions but i'm going to hold them in terms of -- we all know here in this context that coordination is tough under the best of situations, so that's a very good upbeat account of all the coordination that's going on within the government and between the levels of government. but i think i won't stop and ask you to delve into that more, because i would like to hear from the federal angle. so i'm going to move on here to tom, who -- let me introduce you, tom, and then -- so this is tom hicks, who is -- was nominated to the election commission in 2018 and confirmed by unamimous vote, which we know is no small feet theat these da. prior to being on the eac, which he will explain to you, he was the senior elections council and minority elections counsel on u.s. house committee on house administration where he focused on issues relating to campaign finance, election reform and contested elections, among other things. prior to that, he served as a seni

one of the things we said was we need to do more outreach with dhs and with the department of energy. because if you do the where are all the resources in the government? most of them are in the department of defense, but those tools and those techniques and that insight also applies to what's going on within dhs. so we put a team in place is and our work with them has been more like how do we help them protect critical infrastructure? and in particular, you know, one of the ways that we have gone about strengthening cyber in the department is the cio that we hired. i've probably told this story before, but it's worth telling. our cio was the cio at jp morgan chase. he had 43,000 i.t. professionals working for him. and banks as you guys all know are attacked all the time because that's where the money is at. he also implemented the cloud. and it's a very international firm, one of the largest in the world. so he's had an outsider's view of what financial institutions need in order to protect. themselves. that financial perspective was formed by working with dhs, so now in his role, he

we're reporting a lot more frequently along with our partners at dhs in the things that we monitor. it's important every single day. so why is cyber part of the president's management agenda in the very first goal around i.t. modernization? it's a couple things. as we modernize the system, many of the security capabilities are built in. that's why we're pressing so aggressively to move to cloud. we look at our threat vector. look how much threat comes from e-mail phishing and we have some agencies using systems that are very, very old, that's one of the reasons we're pushing. that's an example. modern design considers security as an integrated requirement, not an afterthought. some of the things we're doing in seib are secucybersecurity i it around a system. not part of it. we're making significant investments in how we look at data, how we use data, how it's accessible. i'm going to talk about how some of the policy enhancements we're doing are actually trying to put more security around who can get to what, why and how that's used. our modern technical environments, they secure da

s deportation forces and because dhs and i.c.e. have consistently taken money from hsi's budget to pay for the detention and deportation force at i.c.e. so i have two parts to this question. have you or will you take money from hsi and undermine their counterterrorism and national security capability in order to provide official funding to i.c.e.'s deportation force? >> so i appreciate that the question. we would never take money from one part of the organization to another if it meant an increased risk do national security. >> so, is it acceptable or not acceptable to take money from hsi to the i.c.e. deport addition force? >> it's a big agency, it's a lot of taxpayer dollars, $7 billion, and when you run a big agency, when is what as cbp the border patrol bug was 3 about $4 billion. you have to fund what is necessary. you have to meet the obligations we have. you due so in a risk based way and we do woo do there same at i.c.e. i'd thereof be in a placey the appropriation was adequate to cover the needs and mandatory authorities w

dhs also says it's identified more than 500 criminals traveling with the caravans. the general overseeing the deployment of 5800 u.s. military members to the border says some of those troops could start coming home as soon as this wee week. >> shannon: trace gallagher, thank you very much. checked new backlash of the thos of migrants not coming from the trump administration. it's coming from mexicans who say they're worried about the drawing burden on their economy. national correspondent william la jeunesse is in tijuana with details. >> tension in tijuana. >> we are here because our government has not taken control of these, what we call invasions. >> shouting hondurans go home and viva mexico, riot police stopped hundreds mexicans trying to storm the migrant shelter. >> people in the migrant caravan smoking weed, drinking. throwing rocks at the cops. >> these mexicans oppose illegal immigration and blame officials for allowing in thousands without papers. they fear crime, a loss of jobs, depressed wages, eight and a country where 40% already live n poverty. >> i'

heartbreaking news from dhs on alleged criminals in the caravan and facebook responding to claims it censored a number of pro-life campaign ads on the susan b anthony list. the group says it is not buying the explanation. chris stierwald talking about how much to rely on midterm polling when we return. he is also on my living the dream podcast this week, the final details heading into the midterms, you don't want to miss it, check it out. shannon: fox news alert, dhs releasing a fact sheet on the migrant caravan heading towards the us border. it claims 270 individuals out of several thousand within the caravan have criminal histories. dhs seeing people from 20 countries including somalia, india, haiti, afghanistan, facebook is apologizing to a pro-life group for taking down one of its ads saying this ad does not violate facebook's policies and never should have been rejected. we are sorry for the mistake in the ad has been restored and is now running on facebook. it and it does not have policies that prohibit pro-life speech but the susan b and penniless running these political and s

people are showing up, 500 of whom are criminals according to dhs. they don't want that's havoc in their society. why do we want it here. the president tweets catch and relies an obsolete term it's now catch and detain. immigrants flying the flag of their nation. dems must approve border security and wall now. joining me tonight, andy feltman and chris bedford. good to see you both. chrischris, any chance we'll see democrats willing to come to the table. could we ever see funding for a wall? >> no. very unlikely the democrats will come to the table. they have no incentive to do it. a lot of their leaders campaigned against it. there are a few democrats who used to be strong on border control and illegal immigration. they will get no rewards from party leaders. if trump were to declare a in the emergency he could ask the military and defense moneys to start building fortifications along the border. bin that most likely would get tied up in courts. trish: eric, do you agree with that? >> we have to change our immigration system. it's clearly broken. pe

[laughter] >> dhs has, we were slow to th the -- to figure out how complex it was. we provided information with the bureaus who the states without realizing they might not get the information. they needed it let alone to the systems. i don't think in terms of this notification, it was an issue. i know dhs moving out and giving clearances very quickly to states, i think there are, they are. i know they are. they are scaling up the offer of scanning and all the kinds of help. i do think scale is an issue. around the elections but state and local generally. i think the ideas of looking at the national guard of really thinking about how we empower local authorities whether it's local law enforcement were others to help us achieve scale is important. the other thing i would say on this issue of russian interference is of course, the russian interference -- informational operation did not begin with the 2016 election. the idea that they'll be back for 2018 elections implies they left, they never left. their goal is to undermine democracy in the court and the comp -- in th

in fact, earlier this year dhs released its northern border strategy. my question is, in light of the findings in your own personal experience, can you speak to how our northern border can best be secured and how i.c.e. will assist in that mission? >> it's our work with state and locals, our partners in canada to understand the pathways. criminal organization, as powerful as they are, are vulnerable when they cross the border, when their financial instruments cross the border. what we'll continue to do is integrate into those communities, understand what the discreet threats are in each of the communities and continue to apply our resource, to hold to account those who traffic across the border. >> thank you, mr. chairman. >> after significant but effective arm twisting, senator carpenter has agreed to let you know -- >> senator carper is indeed gracious. appreciate it, thank you. mr. vitiello, in december of 2017, i.c.e. issued a directive that reversed a policy that existed before which presumed pregnant women should not be detained. my question -- an

the big news yesterday coming from kirstjen nielsen, the dhs secretary, giving us some numbers.he said there's some 8500 caravan migrants cared migrantsy believe are not eligible for asylum. that's why they say they are coming here and they believe there are as many as 600 with a criminal history in there. another important part of this whole story is what we saw sunday, dhs secretary, officials saying that four agents, at least four agents were injured in all of this. that is why yesterday at a rally in mississippi president trump had a message for the caravan migrants. >> we're sending a clear message to the caravans and to the trespassers, turn around, go back home, and they want protection because their country is such a bad place but they're waving the flags of their countries as they're walking up. somehow that doesn't work, right? doesn't work. >> reporter: so heather, we're going to spend a few days here, trying to find out -- the first guys i've been talking to here, they say they've been here four or five days. one other note, the letter from mexican officials actually

also from dhs and doj, a joint statement. they say this.y the fact that the aclu and its partners would go to court to specifically sue for the right for aliens to enter into the country illegally is demonstrative of the disdain for our country's law that all rational americans find appalling. >> the fact is this is a legal thing for people to do. it's under u.s. law. and that's a law that congress has passed. so the president just unilaterally decide he's going to override our american laws is concerning. but i think that this might create more illegal migration because if people are not going to wait in line at the port of entries, they may try to evade capture and go this other route. this just creates mass confusion, if they don't want to go there -- >> shannon: they'll say he's relying on a law -- >> congress has given him sweeping authority to keep out of the united states any person or class of persons that he deems detrimental to the united states. so, yes, he can do this. >> shannon: we'll wait for that ruling. it's going to be wit

that part of the dhs request for troops had to do with crowd and traffic control, according to the dhsfficials felt that would have required troops to enforce domestic laws. while the pentagon was rejecting that specific part of the dhs request, the dod did approve other parts of the request to send troops to support civil authorities, people like engineers, and people like air and logistics officials, people that needed support from those troops. the president made waves earlier this week when he suggested that migrants that throw rocks at military service members at the border could be shot. he said he would advise military service members at the border to consider thrown rocks as firearms. he tried to clean that up yesterday, telling reporters he meant only that migrants that throw rocks at u.s. officials should be arrested, and the whole reason this part of the request was rejected in the first place is because arresting migrants is illegal for troops to do in the first place. but fred, this is all coming as the president tries to make deployment of potentially thousands of troops

just a short time ago, dhs saying they have seen intentional misinformation that was rapidly addressed and we in the media, we at cnn, are always cautioning voters to check out the official feeds, the official websites for that official information on where to vote. you have to go to the official resources. then you have something as simple as the weather. a lot of people vote depending on the weather. you can see this blue band up and down the east coast. there's a lot of rain today. that's going to affect lines. that's going to affect people deciding whether they actually want to go out and vote. finally, the big fears i mentioned, hacking. so far, there's zero sign of any sort of breaches or hacking. there is some scanning, which is akin to you being on google street view and a malicious actor taking a look at a house on google. so they're testing, they're looking, they're probing. there have been so far no intrusions. they're calling it run of the mill. everything they've seen they cannot trace back to a single actor like russia. so brooke, a lot of these issues, all across the boa

and looking closely at dhs on how we look at high-value assets and continue keeping those secure andne of the most interesting is what we have to do with identity. identity is a critical part of cyber security and how we allow access and modernize systems and we are aspiring to do more with data and delivering more digital services, tools for managing identity inappropriate access. that is what we are spending time on and we had more than 500 comments coming back from many in this room and giving perspectives on what that should look like. additionally i am pleased we have lots of great tools, different ways whether it is executive order, support from congress, other things like that, indicated, the focus and priority of cybersecurity. one reason i came to government is the nexus was empowering. and administration that has a priority around cyber security. lawmakers who were prioritizing and funding investments and agencies that are poised and have the best tools available and actually making real progress. that is the other reason i point to the president's management agenda, we are

people being paid by dhs in the caravan.robably desperate to make money and glad to take it from wherever they can get it to provide information to the u.s. government. and they've also monitoring their communications. the groups trying to figure out where they're going next. people i've spoken to who used to be in the positions make the decisions of how to allocate dhs resources particularly on intention say that could be a very dangerous misallocation of resources because they don't see the car vaavan as the top natio security threat. >> there are people coming to claim asylum because they'd like a better life. we need to make that point clear. julia, thank you as always. happy thanksgiving. >> reporter: happy thanksgiving. >>> the president's interior secretary has talked about who is to blame for california's wildfires. one more thing is right after this break. liver transplant, it could cost you your life. it's time to get out of line with upmc. at upmc, living-donor transplants put you first. so you don't die waiting.

dhs husband not been able to back up that claim. paul, on the politics of this, oftentimes with these pushes here, the administration might even know it's going to lose in court, but makes a judgment that, and again, that's not guaranteed here because if it goes to the supreme court, maybe he gets the judgment he wants, but oftentimes it knows it may lose in court, but politically makes a judgment this is to the president's advantage. do you see that to some extent? >> that's perhaps the motive. the president seemed to want to frighten us about the caravan right before the election. i have to say, if so, it failed. in the exit polling, not only did democrats have an enormous wave. their best midterm election in 44 years, the number one issue was health care. the president tried to hype up fear about immigration. it just didn't work. despite deploying troops to the border, despite deploying fear of -- the problem is, and politics is my field and i love it. when you then use your powers as president and the legal system to advance you

dhs releasing a fact sheet on the migrant caravan.laims at least 270 individuals out of several thousand within the caravan have criminal histories. dhs also says it continues to see people for more than 20 20 countries including somalia, haiti, afghanistan and bangladesh. facebook is apologizing to a pro-life group for taking down an ad. facebook says this ad does not violate policies and shouldn't have been rejected. we are sorry for the mistake in the ad has been restored and it's now running on facebook pick it and that it does not have policies that prohibit pro-life speech. but this is an b anthony list running these blood glasses our pro-life message is constantly under threat by facebook. talk about the controversy with chris stirewalt. welcome. let me tell you tonight we are hearing, and they are running pro-life ads. places like montana, tennessee and other big races. they say they are up to six of their ads in six different races that have been pulled by facebook and they are kind of not buying the explanation that it was a

and through his administration, through dhs.e truly does need a partner in congress in these remaining days of this lame duck congress to give him the funding he needs for border wall and border security. >> judge jeanine: you and i both know they don't want to give him the money for the wall. i blame paul ryan and mitch mcconnell for this. they limited the actual building to $1.6 billion -- i think it's billion. and in the end, i will go to you deroy, the truth is that, you know, the party is not working with him and now he says, i want republicans and democrats to come together. what leverage does the president have? he is talking about shutting down the government. i mean, what does he do? things, one he could shut down the government. second thing, i think once these guys come back from thanksgiving, he should keep the 115th congress up on capitol hill until january 3rd, when democrats come in and vote, vote, vote, and litter his desk with laws on immigration and other things. the other message that has to go out to all thes

from their parents earlier this year. >> i never thought that they would separate him from me. >> a dhpokes woman called a disregard for the troop and a fundamental misunderstanding of our nation's immigration system. president trump pointed out that his administration is not the only ones who have separated children from their parents when they come in illegally. >> president obama had a separation policy, but people do not talk about that. >> the crossing and threatening to close the border altogether, president trump sending the signal to mexico that he is not afraid to affect cross-border commerce between the united states and mexico in order to get action on immigration. but the people that he needs to convince our democrats down the street on capitol hill, and for the moment, bret, they appear unmoved. to speak on john roberts, thanks. to the violence has ebbed and the teargas drifted away, but there is still considerable tension on the u.s. border, tonight in california following sunday's stampede by central american migrants on the border correspondent jeff paul in tijuana toni

chris: are you happy with kirstjen nielsen at dhs? >> i like her a lot, i respect her a lot, she's very smart, i want her to get much tougher and we will see what happens. chris: what are chances that she will be dhs secretary? >> that's what happened in government, you leave, you go, the people that have left have done very well, the people that have left have done very well from my white house. i like like her very much, i respect her very much, i'd like her to be much tougher on the border, much tougher, period. chris: back in july you said that chief of staff john kelly will be here through 2020. can we still say that? >> i wouldn't -- look, we get along well. there are certain things i love what he does and there are certain things that i don't like that he does that aren't his strength. it's not that he -- he works so hard. he's doing an excellent job in many ways, a couple of things where it's just not his strength, it's not his fault, it's not his strength. chris: such as? >> i haven't thought about john in terms of this, but

dhs says half all states have completed vulnerability assessments. >> if there was an attack on the voting tuesday there would be a u.s. government response. that's the government's position. there is a lot of reporting there would be cyber response. is that on the table? >> everything is on the table. reporter: last cycle a russian troll factory masqueradedon line as awful s. citizens. this year they sponsored pro china ads to influence farmers. >> we have seen efforts to influence the way americans think to perhaps change our policies. >> she warns they til exploit election night. >> sow confusion, and misdust by placing stories on media that something was wrong. reporter: secretary nielsen says americans should not jump to conclusions if there is a problem and wait for an independent assessment from dhs and the intelligence community. lou: those four caravans of mainly central american migrants are on their way to the u.s. borderer. the closest port of entry is mcallen, texas, 600 miles away. it's a contentious, violent bunch, the mexican government tells us. a third caravan has reached

and they have the lead with dhs. indiana is like michigan. >> actually, we have a whole -- we have a whole executive department of homeland security. >> each state is structured differently. don't think for a second that we've taken the federal help and response out of it, we follow the national response framework. we're all training in the incident command which is federally mandated. when you look at the definition of interagency within federal government, it means between federal agencies. they always talk about working with state and local tribal. you talk to someone at the state county or city, they're thinking city, county state and federal. you have to explain when you come to d.c. that inner agency doesn't mean just between federal departments. all of our laws are driven toward what can the feds do, and hopefully someone's here from dls, they do an amazing job with the resources they're provided by congress. i remember a decade ago they announced their teams, they were going to be able to help. our state kept

we learned yesterday from dhs secretary kirstjen nielsen there is some 8500 total migrants a little overhere. another 2,000 over in mexicali which is about two hours ahead. we learned, of course, the stunning number which is that 600 of them believed to have had criminal histories. we also learned another figure that's very interesting. that is 90%, they believe, are not eligible for asylum, which is, of course, the main reason why they are putting the central american countries, they tell us from honduras, guatemala and el salvador and, of course, there was the attacks we saw on sunday that the border patrol had to employ tear grass across. we learned at least four border patrol agents were injured in those attacks. actually sending an official letter to the u.s. side wanting to know why that was used an investigation of sorts. i talked about a dozen folks here, all males. that is, of course, something that nielsen has told us is mostly males here and that's what we have seen this morning. 12 to 14 of them actually about two hours ago tried to scale the fence. i will show you the fence

those are all deportees, referring to people deported from the united states according to dhs. called and asked who are those 600? they won't give us data breakdowns on what those 600 people did. are they traffic violations? did they run a red light and get deported out of the country and they're being classified as violent criminals? people that we have to be scared of, really bad people, thugs, whatever the president says. are did they actually commit, you know, more serious crimes? if they did, how many of them in that group are serious criminals, are you tracking them, what's being done to stop those people from getting into the united states? it's simple and straightforward. it's called law enforcement. it's done every day inside the united states. they know who these folks are. why aren't you being more transparent in the 600 group with the breakdown of what they did? >> and here's the deal. i mean, a.b., i think his message about the gang violence is central to his political brand. this only threatens to weaken it, to dilute it. whenever you as a politician are articulat

leland: the president orders the military with dhs to shut the border down, is that possible?t happens in the next 72 hours? >> several contingencies to look down. some involve pandemics. fidel castro in cuba you might have a mass migration. scenarios there were the military is supporting the officers and basically forming both technology intercepts coming uavs and also physical barrier. so it can be done. leland: deplorable in days, hours. >> right now 2000 national guard. he's got 5000 active and is god secretary matias now has on the ready another additional 5000. tree into when you ran the scenarios how many troops are needed to literally shut the border down russian mark >> it would depend on the scenario. in this case they focus their resources on where the current caravan is. first the core vm is a mass itself in a handful of concentrated areas are just like the military general wouldn't diffuse his forces equally across the border. they're border. according to nasa resources equivalent to the opposition on the other side. leland: you talked about trying to push the bor

the dhs claims without evidence that 270 migrants have criminal histories. hours earlier, the president himself said we have no idea who is in the caravan. >>> democrats deploying star power to get out the vote in georgia. >> hi. >> oh, my god. >> hi, denice. >> that is oprah winfrey knocking on doors for stacey abrams. making a plea for georgians to vote. >> for anybody here who has an ancestor who didn't have the right to vote and you are choosing not to vote wherever you are in this state and this country, you are dishonoring your family. honor your legacy. honor your legacy. honor your right to citizenship in this which is the greatest country in the world. >> vice president mike pence also in georgia campaigning for republican brian kemp. he had a message for stacey abrams and other high profile backers such as "anchorman" star will ferrell. >> i would like to remind stacey and oprah and will ferrell, i'm a big deal too. i have a message for stacey abrams' hollywood friends. this ain't hollywood. this is georgia. >> today, president obama campaigns in g