dia institute, a think tank. joining us live on our t international variable. welcome to today. so thank you very much for joining us on what is a very important story here that of the development i guess of the multi polo world . that seems to be a growing consensus in many parts of the world that the u. s. dollar is slowly being upstaged slowly being pushed to the side in the wake of new strategic economic families and relationships around the world, resorting to national currencies. is that all a conspiracy theory, or is there any truth to that, sir? thank you so much know there's a tooth to it. but the issue is that you know, how much would this progress this evo decoupling for the dollar? and there would come a time then i think the us will kind of get more active to prevent this, the coupling of the dollar you see because the more the dollar, the couples from various international trade and all water to do is that it will push up the interest rates on the us treasury bills, us as a debt of about put b or trillion dollars. so if the interest rates on the b bill goes up, it

although they are speaking with a robin to such dev, president of the imagined, dia institute think tank. now. he says that while western states believe sanctions will work over the long term, it's going to cost them dearly as more countries drop the american dollar. if the u . s. and the with things that the sanctions on not working i'm in see the sanctions according to the list all working in the long they're looking at a long plea. right. so what they will keep doing is increasing the sanctions of the ambit of the sanctions will keep on increasing in the coming months of that perhaps there is no doubt to my minds and they're looking at along to them. but stick to so to my mind, yes, i mean that's the only 2 of us has actually, you know, economic sanctions. they don't have any, any other methods. the more the dollar decompose from various interactions. great, and all water to do is that it will shop the interest rates on the u. s. treasury bills us as a whole. boat could be all really in dollars. so if the interest rates on the b bills goes up, it will hurt america. so that could be a

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