for more on this, i talked to diana henriques of "the new york times" a short time ago. first question has got to be who is jeffrey pickhauer and how is it he had $7 billion of investments with bernie maddoff? >> well, the late jeffrey pickhauer, he died a-- october a year ago, was probably one of the quietest, richest men in america. 's sellabled an enormous wealth by one estimate he had $10 billion in one trading account at goldman sachs in the 1990s. and traded elsewhere. he traded legitimately in publicly traded stocks. he engaged in mergers and acquisitions, speculation and accumulated very, very quietly this enormous sum. he also invested with bernie maddoff and is is that money that is being returned now so that it can be distributed among maddoff's victims. >> suarez: which of those victims will be getting access to this capital? >> well, that's a good question. because it's not everybody. the way ponzi scheme arithmetic works, the people who will be compensated will be those who put in more cash than they were able to take out before the ponzi scheme could lapsd