that is mitchel and diana ray. such a difficult time for the whole community. you were here yesterday with some of the victims' families. what happened? >> yesterday, in the beginning of the afternoon, several families came, friends and families of these victims. they came to the place where they can have a rest and think of these victims. there was a short ceremony with several regents. >> including, i think, imams, and catholics. >> catholics, yes. >> what was it -- how difficult was it for these relatives? how much sort of emotion did some show and then did other people -- did sort of take this in a very different way? >> it's just -- well we were amongst interpreters but in fact we didn't come into direct contact with them because the germans arrived with all their interpreters, they had everything written and they all wanted to be together but it was extremely distressing for everybody concerned. and they stayed i suppose, about three quarters of an hour perhaps an hour. there was a speech from the german ambassador. >> what did he say? >> she's a woman. >