i was seated i joanna cherry and diane abbott. they joanna cherry and diane abbott. both talking and really moving and alarming terms about the abuse they have suffered and joanna said she would not have gone into politics had she known that this was going to happen and that is, at the extreme there is the violence that has taken his lies and may well been driven by a cause. but there is a spectrum of people being cut off of political protest are intimidating from speaking, intimidating from getting involved which is damaging and can really damage as as a liberal democracy and we have to think understand that as a spectrum just as with violence against women and girls, sexual violence where people are rightly spoken about spectrum of behaviour and red flags and things that ought to have been tackled further down the track and i think we need to reconsider that within the framework of political discourse and how we relate to each other. the man arrested for killing mp sir david amess is named as ali harbi ali, a british man of somali heritage. the 25—year—old was arre

joining me now is the labour mp, diane abbott. welcome.r david amess. he was a ve kind remember sir david amess. he was a very kind man — remember sir david amess. he was a very kind man and — remember sir david amess. he was a very kind man and devoted _ remember sir david amess. he was a very kind man and devoted to - remember sir david amess. he was a very kind man and devoted to his - very kind man and devoted to his constituents. all our thoughts and prayers are with his family and friends today. we prayers are with his family and friends today.— prayers are with his family and friends toda . ~ ., ., ., friends today. we have heard from the home secretary, _ friends today. we have heard from the home secretary, speaking - friends today. we have heard from the home secretary, speaking to l friends today. we have heard from l the home secretary, speaking to the bbc about plans that might be put in place to provide more protection for mps. perhaps we may start with your experience. i know you have been subject to some horrific abuse eith

i was speaking to diane abbott, and she said that the minute police were posted outside her constituencye off attending because of the police presence, so how would you make sure you strike the balance of safety and accessibility? i think yesterday people understood, it is not the first time there has been police outside one of my surgeries. certainly, during the brexit debate, when i was receiving rather pointed threats on social media, the police had a presence on the door or indeed squad cars circulating so that those who were attending were aware that there were police in the area. i think diane has a point that some people can be quite nervous of being at a surgery and seeing police there, they wonder why when they are just there to lobby their mps, and that has been happening for decades. i heard some school of thought over the last couple of days that mps should go back to visit in their constituencies and only having surgeries every now and again. i think it doesn't show the modern politics in what we live. i'm speaking to you from my constituency home, my only home, i live among

earlier, i spoke to the labour mp diane abbott about security for mps and the abuse that they sometimes parliament. it is horrible, very off—putting for staff, and for young people who come as volunteers, and there are regular death threats. one of the things i would say about the online abuse, and also the online radicalisation, it is what the police call bedroom radicalisation, the social media companies could do a lot more. they could take down some of these accounts. they could end what you might call end—to—end anonymity. i was pleased to hear about this just now. of course you should be able to post on twitter and facebook anonymously, but the social media company should hold your name and address. the name and address of everybody that uses their platform. because when i have had death threats, it has been hard for the police to investigate because of this anonymity. also, people say things when they are anonymous that they would not say if they knew there was a way of finding out who they were. how likely is it that will happen? we have called for changes for so long, particular

i was listening to joanna cherry and i i was listening tojoanna cherry and diane abbott on radio foure had profound disagreements with over the years, but they were both talking in really moving and alarming terms about the levels of abuse they suffer, and joanna in particular were saying she wouldn't have got into politics had she known that this was going to happen. and that is at the extreme there is the violence that does seem to have, well, that has taken sir david's life and may well have been driven by a cause. but there is a spectrum of people being put off politics or been intimidated from speaking, intimidated from getting involved, which is damaging, and really damage us, britain, as a liberal democracy and we have to understand that as a spectrum, just as with violence against women and girls, sexual violence, where people have rightly spoken about a spectrum of behaviour and red flags and things that ought to have been tackled further down the track. i think we need to reconsider that within the framework of political discourse and how we relate to each other. john woodco

diane abbott is suggesting that surgeries _ speedily.ing about it? i think diane speaks from _ you been thinking about it? i think diane speaks from the _ you been thinking about it? i think| diane speaks from the experience, you been thinking about it? i think i diane speaks from the experience, i know that in recent years there was a survey that showed she received around of the abuse —— around a half of all of the abuse that is subjected to mps. there are a range of options, there is the screen option, others talking about police presence at surgeries. we do have to look at it and we need to get the balance right. access to mps is the lifeblood of our democracy, it is something we are rightly proud of and we have got to get the balance right between preserving access for the public and mps and their security and its vital it is so. what about the broader debate this morning about the government's prevent scheme? the individual accused of carrying out this attack had been referred to that scheme previously. is that something that needs

the people in all of that stuff, some of the vitriolic attacks on ed miliband, jeremy corbin and diane abbottof the has to ask yet another question about southend. —— the house. he pull me a very nice glass of wine last time i met him. thank you. chris bryant. a teenager has been arrested in connection with the death of a 14—year—old boy who was found seriously injured at a railway station in glasgow. justin mclaughlin was attacked on the platform of high street railway station on saturday. police scotland launched a murder inquiry and said a 16—year—old boy has been arrested in connection with the incident. 0fficers said inquiries are continuing after the arrest. ford has announced a transformation of its plant at halewood, on merseyside, in a move that will secure hundreds of jobs. the car maker is spending more than £200 million converting the factory to produce components for electric vehicles from 2024. it's part of plans to make its entire passenger vehicle line—up in europe electric by 2030. we can speak now to mika minio—paluello, the policy lead for climate and industry at the tuc. w