joining me is diane dimond. he was just trying to talk her into the sack. >> it is like the hugh grant excuse going awry. this is the oldest mid life crisis i have ever seen. he is a billionaire. a smart man. an older man. before he brings somebody like this into his organization, you think he would check out her background. she has a rap sheet and six aliases. this is the one he wants to impress and get in the sack? >> this is known for street smarts. what are the odds that twice in a row there is a recording that is revealed? i think this second tape is pure set-up. he called a buddy of his and said roll tape on me. i want to tell my side of it and release that. >> you are cynical. i hadn't thought of that. maybe that is true. maybe that is true. i thought to myself, how stupid is this man? he would call somebody and say these things, run the risk of recorded again. maybe it was deliberate. maybe this is his way of explaining himself. the problem is, michael, he did not say there i liked her. she is black. i d