parker crime scene. in 2011, a jury convicted him of the murders of big charlie and diane.ce hill? do you know that name? did you ever see him at the farm property or on job sites? >> never. >> rick's lawyer needed proof there was no connection between the two men so he paid hill a visit. >> bruce hill showed a picture of rick gagnon and his words were, i've never seen that cracker before. you know, bruce hill would've been unambiguous and was very blunt that he did not know rick gagnon. >> all hill had to do now is admit that in open court and gagnon might go free. hill flatly refused. once again, rick was out of luck, but not hope. >> it was the first piece of good news i had had a long time, you know. i was excited to see what god was getting ready to do. >> and there were developments. namely, the arrival of a new inmate. >> i was in the chapel at the time. it was my job assignment. he was brought into the chapel. >> one day, the men opened up and stand rick. he said he had known a guy in jail said wait for it, robert mullins, the very same who testified against rick. t

diane wiest. incredible. >> john: we were both in our mid-30s at the time but because all the other kids were like 20 and younger. sarah jessica parker were the oldsters. there we were in tiny little provo, utah. we were restless. being considered the old farts and we sort of reacted to that. in my pathetic little motel room, i threw all the parties. all the kids would come in and we would dance. we did "soul train." they were amazed at us. most vertically won one night we tore off all our clothes and jumped into the motel swimming pool. they were absolutely appalled. the next morning, our producer danny melnyk, he put up the memo, no more of that. we don't want to get kicked out of provo. turns out we were ten times cooler than the kids. >> stephen: and to this very day. to this very day. we have to take a quick break but we'll be right back with more john lithgow, everybody. don't go away and i'm ready for a rematch. game on. i've been practicing. what the cello? you want me to lower the hoop? foul! what? you going to tell on me again? foul yah? foul bro! here take a free shot go ahead knock yourself out. your about to get served.