we just heard from him diane stoughton bug. he's cool. this a great victory, the ukraine. so why is this a crucial achievement? so keep, so well, this is the ukraine in navy that was almost completely captured by the russians in the 2014 taking of this, the best of all poets in crimea. and what they've managed to do since then is sick, $17000.00 tons of russian shipping. that's a 150 percent more. and the russians have managed to think of ukrainian shipping. so for a country effectively without the navy to be able to sing a 150 percent more of the shipping of the one of the largest navies in the world really is an extraordinary achievement. so if a pay is in crane is fine to get an easy, it's a put rougher on the black foot in the black sea than it is on, on dry land. why is that? what are the reasons behind that? yeah, well i think that, i mean, obviously the, the ukrainian defensive last year didn't really cheap what it was meant to achieve . and that's because the russians had some time to be able to dig in. so all along the front they dug in strong ations on the tank d