>> patterson and dicarlo are old colleagues. dicarlo said that patterson has been standing by the u.s. line, appealing for the right of protesters to demonstrate. she said any accusations of bias were ill-founded. >> i want to have you and nathan both weigh in on this. nathan, you spent such a long time at the u.n.. it has been a long, slow moving process. why does it take so long? >> you have to let egypt decide. you also have the general assembly, 193 countries. also, countries are reticent to get involved. that is a big thing in the united nations. when it comes to situations like this in egypt, which do have regional dimensions, they generally try to wait until the regional dimensions are filtering out before considering. many feel that acts of sovereignty outweigh what is going on right now internally in egypt. >> i want to get your last word on all of this and the mood at the u.n.. what is your take? >> i can only add to what nathan has said. if we look at the agenda, it addresses issues like sudan and mali. these are tran

. >> dicarlo commended the panamanians for the seizure. she said they have a responsibility to ensure the panama canal is used for safe commerce. a spokesperson for north korea's foreign ministry says the ship was transporting old weapons for return to cuba as part of a legitimate contract. ministry officials are demanding panama release the ship and its crew. >>> we spoke with an expert who has been observing north korea for years and asked about his insight. >> as we all know north korea has been very severe united nations sanctions, so i think that north korea will engage in any activities that will make them money. international hard currency the dollar. so i think that what they've been trying to do is to engage in commercial activities that makes them money. so i think that i don't see any grand rational overall strategy, just north korea is trying to survive. cuba and north korea are the two remaining communist countries, so-called trying to struggle against the united states. cuba and north korea, their relationship go way back to

a wonderful foreign service officer named rosemary dicarlo. >> and i'm sure she is wonderful, but itould great to have the united states ambassador to the united nations sitting in that chair. senator corker. >> thank you, mr. chairman. and thank you again for being willing to serve. i enjoyed our meeting and our discussion about what a liberal interventionalist is, and certainly though would like to drill down a little bit on the responsibility to protect. first of all, you know, in following up on the security council discussion that just was had, do you believe that for us to take unilateral military action that we need a u.n. security council approval to do so? >> sir, i believe the president always should act in the interests of the american people. when u.s. national security is threatened and the security council is unwilling to authorize the use of force, but the president believes it is judicious to do so, of course that is something that he should be free to do. >> and -- that was brief. [laughter] what exactly does the responsibility to protect mean to you? >> well, sir, a